The stream of authentication records with called-station-id and account should be enough to do rudimentary contact tracing over a broad area (coverage of an AP)
I'd want to avoid the slippery slope of this being used as a proxy for class attendance and their academic record because I don't want all of our wireless troubleshooting logs to suddenly be in scope for FERPA. Also, I heard once that cisco were taking future-possibility of contact tracing out of DNA-spaces marketing materials because cisco's legal freaked on the possible privacy implications of what the marketing department had dreamed up. We do not have DNA spaces. Richard Letts -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco pre-DNA Spaces Location Service, Contact Tracing Lee, Even without location services, one can get association data for a device and use that for rudimentary contact tracing. I used it over the summer for a possible COVID case, and it was helpful in determining where the person was not. That is, it's not accurate enough to exclude people from the local area, but if the devices weren’t seen in other buildings, that was helpful. I don't know that it would scale come students returning, and we're going to need something like Spaces to help. Spaces looked very expensive however. We make use of an emergency notification product called Everbridge, and they are pitching a contact tracing support add-on to their mobile app where they bridge data from WiFi associations, door swipe, meal cards, and so on, all in an effort to provide more accurate information on a device/person. Of course, that raises privacy concerns, so I'm still hopeful we'll see something compelling come from the Apple/Google partnership where we aren't holding onto data that must be protected and managed. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco pre-DNA Spaces Location Service, Contact Tracing I hope everyone on the list is doing well. We are getting multiple vendor pitches these days for contact tracing “solutions”. From Cisco, our main network vendor, their pitch relies on DNA Spaces. We don’t use that yet, and it’s no secret what is happening to many of our budgets. My question is specifically for Cisco legacy location services users. Are you all doing anything specific in anticipation of possibly needing to provide Wi-Fi location data for contact tracing? Are you being specifically asked about it by your management? I haven’t decided yet weather the vendors are being generally altruistic or opportunistic on this topic yet. Regards, Lee Badman (mobile) ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
