EAP-TTLS is simply an EAP method. What credential and subject type you use is 
up to your configuration and policy.

RE: EMMs (speaking generically), yes many need to have additional config 
options exposed for Passpoint parameters but you don't need client certificates 
for Passpoint. If no customers ask for a capability, it likely will not be 
implemented in any product. It won't be an overnight flip of the switch to 
eliminate your existing 802.1X SSID so those EMM managed devices can continue 
as they normally would. Visitors with credentials from another IdP can 
seamlessly connect in the meantime. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

Unfortunately there's been so much negativity around Passpoint over the years 
that not many people have engaged with vendors on it. Just my opinion. Outside 
of the eduroam advisory council and historical interest in the technology, I 
really have no other vested interest in the topic.

Tim
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On 21/7/20 11:04 am, Tim Cappalli wrote:
> Both major Wi-Fi vendors have Passpoint offerings that are either
> available or in preview.

I'm talking about the client side. Intune doesn't even have a CA either
(no the short-lived one for conditional access doesn't count). Where's
the Microsoft supported agent that does device-specific TTLS-PAP like
you suggest?

Also 
https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.securew2.com%2Fblog%2Fpitfalls-of-eap-ttls-pap%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Ctim.cappalli%40MICROSOFT.COM%7Ca83f24666b4f421d719408d82d23afd8%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637308978591817681&amp;sdata=AsFb0%2BDplHGzVWHxo6qWKqw9XYJuH5Md3YhdYEpQFzY%3D&amp;reserved=0
 is the top
google result for [TTLS-PAP], admittedly it's about user credentials not
device credentials but it's still a risk.

--
James Andrewartha
Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877

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