I don’t see eduroam dissolving. Each vendor’s implementation of OpenRoaming (assuming they integrate) is going to vary and may have cost impact. AFAIK, one large wireless vendor requires a very expensive subscription / platform in order to interconnect. If the eduroam US TLRS can handle all of that without need a bunch of extra stuff, that sounds like a better option.
RE: Identity I think one very prominent use case is that residential campuses will continue to need some form of personal area network functionality to deal with home devices. You really need some form of resolvable user identity to address that. And given some of the reactions in the previous thread about MAC randomization, I really don’t think people are willing to give up access to their own user’s identities on their campus (just my unscientific analysis 😊) I think its always important to separate Faculty/Staff/Non-Resident students from residential students. They expect drastically difference experiences. tim From: Jeffrey D. Sessler<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 12:45 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? I’m not trying to get out of a business, but Internet2 could eventually get out of the radius/eduroam business. Unless I’m mistaken, at the point an institution federates directly with openroaming, the need for eduroam diminishes. Obviously it’s going to take time, but if there is a push to adopt openroaming in EDU, then in say five years, does eduroam have a future? On the identity front… As we march toward a cloud-based future, and our WiFi networks transformed into simple gateways to the internet, how much information do we need/want? How much information should we collect? After all, if the service is no different than at Starbucks, what does the collection of more information do for us? Jeff From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? What business are you trying to get out of specifically? OpenRoaming is a way for federations of organizations and/or individual organizations to interconnect. Eduroam would start to mean “less” to end users, as they wouldn’t see an “eduroam” ESSID anymore, but there is still value in a trust framework for educational organizations, especially when it comes to identity. If you decide not to provision users with your university identity, you will likely have no access to that users real identity. I imagine you still want access to identity for your own users and devices? At its core, OR is simply a few extra elements in the profile that gets put on the device provisioning. OR itself, also does not provide client provisioning. You still need to do that, or pay for a service that will do it. I think, personally, that there is a major lack of understanding throughout the industry of what OR actually is. tim From: Jeffrey D. Sessler<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 11:56 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? Why not the other way around, and standardize on OpenRoaming, and have everything else become a member of it? Do we still need eduroam at that point? Do we care if the client device is using their ATT, Spectrum, or college credentials? I’m reminded that in EDU we often fix problems nobody cared much about at the time e.g. eduroam, but as the world matures, and there are perhaps better alternatives, why not get out of the business? There are costs to operate eduroam, and if it’s no longer strategic or different from other services e.g. OpenRoaming, why not put those resources into something that is strategic and a differentiator? Why wouldn’t Internet2 and its members focus on adoption of OpenRoaming rather than a new and possibly duplicative service like anyroam? Jeff From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:20 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected? At least for the US, we plan to have an Open-Roaming gateway at ANYROAM. We became member of the WBA for that purpose back in May 2020. The idea is to simplify connectivity for schools: you have one connection with ANYROAM, and all your roaming traffic is sorted by us (Open-Roaming, eduroam, Govroam, …). No need to be turn your school’s RADIUS server into a complex gateway. 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