You can separate the authentication and the authorization if you want to use 
ISE for controlling authorization.  If your vpn solution is cisco, the ASA can 
talk directly to Azure via SAML and then send authorization requests separately 
to ISE.  For Duo, you can set up a Duo Proxy via ISE and the ASA would only 
talk to ISE, but I’m not sure Azure has that.  I like having ISE in the mix on 
our Anyconnect VPN for auditing and pulling authentication reports, especially 
if you have multiple vpn profiles.

Thanks,

Lynn Heavrin
Network Engineer III | Network Engineering
Washington University in St. Louis
4480 Clayton Ave, St. Louis, MO 63110
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<[email protected]> on behalf of Jeffrey D. Sessler 
<[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:15 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ISE-NPS-Azure MFA
I 2nd Tim’s suggestion.  If the VPN is Cisco-based, they support using SAML 
against AzureAD including MFA.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/security/anyconnect-secure-mobility-client/215935-configure-asa-anyconnect-vpn-with-micros.html

Jeff

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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<[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:54 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ISE-NPS-Azure MFA
We are talking VPN here and for the entire campus…

Manon Lessard
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Date: Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:50 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] ISE-NPS-Azure MFA

Microsoft note this behaviour and have some sort of workaround in their NPS MFA 
extension: 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/authentication/howto-mfa-nps-extension#radius-protocol-behavior-and-the-nps-extension<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fazure%2Factive-directory%2Fauthentication%2Fhowto-mfa-nps-extension%23radius-protocol-behavior-and-the-nps-extension&data=04%7C01%7CJeff%40scrippscollege.edu%7Cce9c136021d74345c1f408d968a17373%7C47274664281d4e3282489661a922b78c%7C0%7C0%7C637655864918092027%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Lnnx9DjqwbGZ%2BlmZ%2Fo%2B%2FfXkRG%2B2EeykBJF%2BcP3bLk4k%3D&reserved=0>

Really though, doing MFA for RADIUS is a square peg in a round hole, use MFA to 
provision a client cert and do EAP-TLS instead.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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<[email protected]>
Reply to: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 10:20 pm
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] ISE-NPS-Azure MFA

A question not directly related to Wi-Fi, but related to ISE which seems to be 
something some of you use.

We are currently authenticating a VPN test group via ISE through NPS servers 
(defined as a token server).
The goal is to do MFA with Azure through the Authenticator app on people’s 
phones.
Everything works, but Authenticator pops up for confirmation, sometimes 2 to 3 
times, even if one has accepted the first confirmation…

I would like to have feedback from people who used something like that and have 
solved the multiple Authenticator prompts.

Thank you

Manon Lessard
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CCNP, CWNE #275, AWA 10, ESCE Design
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