Any chance you could be experiencing the issues outlined in today's
advisory?

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On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 10:20 AM Enfield, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:

> Between 5k and 6k clients on a 7240xm is where we started seeing problems.
> Lighter loaded controllers were OK.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "Street, Chad A" <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 2, 2021 11:03 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else
> seeing any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection
> times (Aruba 8.5.0.13)
>
> We are a balanced cluster, notes about load below:
>
>
> "I’m also noticing that there are much fewer clients on this controller,
> and that ratio doesn’t seem to be improving."
>
> To this point, the action we took that seemed to help the most was
> adjusting our active client load balancing threshold.  We dropped it
> significantly to force clients to balance across controllers.  Once we got
> below ~5000 active clients per controller, we stopped seeing the mass
> client connection issues.
>
> We still have a controller that hasn't taken significant load, but now
> that we've been running without major issues for the past few days, we're
> reluctant to touch the setting again.
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> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> [email protected]> on behalf of Rob Harris <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 2, 2021 10:59 AM
> *To:* [email protected] <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else
> seeing any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection
> times (Aruba 8.5.0.13)
>
>
> For those of you who have experienced this, what was your user load and
> how were your clusters operating (balancing, active/standby) ?
>
>
>
> I wonder if there’s a threshold..
>
>
>
> Thx!
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Smith, Nayef
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 2, 2021 10:20 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else
> seeing any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection
> times (Aruba 8.5.0.13)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "I’m also noticing that there are much fewer clients on this controller,
> and that ratio doesn’t seem to be improving."
>
>
>
> To this point, the action we took that seemed to help the most was
> adjusting our active client load balancing threshold.  We dropped it
> significantly to force clients to balance across controllers.  Once we got
> below ~5000 active clients per controller, we stopped seeing the mass
> client connection issues.
>
>
>
> We still have a controller that hasn't taken significant load, but now
> that we've been running without major issues for the past few days, we're
> reluctant to touch the setting again.
>
>
>
>
>
> Nayef Z. Smith | *Network Services* | Voice: 404-727-6019
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> [email protected]> on behalf of Davis, Jonathan Alan <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 2, 2021 9:27 AM
> *To:* [email protected] <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else
> seeing any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection
> times (Aruba 8.5.0.13)
>
>
>
> Lee, don’t you bring your bad Cisco-juju to this conversation! :-)
>
>
>
> Now that Lee has been properly handled, this is probably a great
> opportunity to say ‘hello’ to the greater list.
>
>
>
> Hello!
>
>
>
> Last night, we (UNC) restarted the controller used to test the firewall
> policy. Despite Aruba’s advisory, we’ve been led to believe that restarting
> STM may not be enough, and restarting the whole controller may be required
> to resolve high STM CPU utilization.
>
>
>
> This morning we are keeping a close eye on that controller. While STM is
> surging well past 100%, it seems to be averaging much closer to 95%.
>
>
>
> However…
>
> We also only have about 7,000 users connected across the cluster. It will
> be interesting to see what happens as the day progresses and students wake
> up and migrate from the ResNET cluster to the Campus cluster.
>
> I’m also noticing that there are much fewer clients on this controller,
> and that ratio doesn’t seem to be improving.
>
>
>
> I’ll update as we progress through this.
>
>
>
> JD
>
> --
>
> Jonathan Davis
>
> Wireless Architect
>
> The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>
> [email protected]
>
> +1 336 279 3355 (Mobile)
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>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> [email protected]> on behalf of Lee H Badman <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 2, 2021 9:06:33 AM
> *To:* [email protected] <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else
> seeing any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection
> times (Aruba 8.5.0.13)
>
>
>
> But you tested in your lab, right? I love that one… put new code on a
> couple of APs, or even a few dozen. That’s supposed to somehow indicate
> what will happen at bigger load… and also maybe implies the vendor didn’t
> do their own “similar lab testing”…
>
> “You should have tested before upgrading the whole environment…” how do
> you REALLY do that? And should you really have to? Just pondering the
> general state of things.
>
> > On Sep 2, 2021, at 08:59, Enfield, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > That's been my experience for years.  The network works great when
> there are no students around.  My working theory is that students emit RF
> interference, but research ethics won’t let me run the tests, so we'll
> never know for sure.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> [email protected]> On Behalf Of Patrick McEvilly
> > Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 8:56 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else
> seeing any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection
> times (Aruba 8.5.0.13)
> >
> > Speaking from experience, I would be very concerned.  We had no issues
> until students returned and we went downhill from there.
> >
> >
> > On 9/2/21, 8:50 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group
> Listserv on behalf of Rob Harris" <[email protected] on
> behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >    Has anyone seen any details regarding what they consider "Large"
> environments? We upgraded during the break, but both before and after
> versions are affected. We didn't notice this happening before, should we be
> concerned now?
> >
> >    The "dropped" is 0 and the stm cpu usage is in single digits, but
> client count is really low (they come back this weekend as well), could we
> be in the clear?
> >
> >    (asked the SE team and opened a tac call, same questions to them)
> >
> >    thx
> >
> >    -----Original Message-----
> >    From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> [email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason Healy
> >    Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 8:45 AM
> >    To: [email protected]
> >    Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else
> seeing any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection
> times (Aruba 8.5.0.13)
> >
> >    CAUTION: This email originated from outside The Culinary Institute of
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> >
> >    FWIW, Aruba just posted an advisory regarding this issue:
> >
> >    Aruba Support Advisory ARUBA-SA-20210901-PLVL04, "Wi-Fi Client
> Connectivity Failures in Large Client Environments"
> >
> >    Good luck to those of you hit by this. My students start coming back
> this weekend so I'll be watching this closely!
> >
> >    Jason
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