Where can I find the design specs for the pringle's can antenna and how do I hook it 
up to the wireless NIC?  Thanks, Tom
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>    1. Return of the pringles can: potato chip strikes back (Ramesh Rao)
>    2. Cisco Aironet 340 Firmware needed (Afaque Ahmed)
>    3. RE: X10 and 802.11 (David T. Witkowski)
>    4. Re: WAPs with built in router-firewall (Allen Fear)
>    5. RE: WAPs with built in router-firewall (Nigel Ballard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:23:43 -0700
> From: Ramesh Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Marcus Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: San Francisco State University
> Subject: [BAWUG] Return of the pringles can: potato chip strikes back
> 
> 
> Return of the pringles can: potato chip strikes back
> 
> 
>http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=562&ncid=738&e=7&u=/ap/20020929/ap_on_hi_te/wireless_security
> 
> 
> 
> .................................................................................
> 
> Agency Probes D.C. Wireless Network
> Sun Sep 29, 1:37 PM ET
> 
> By D. IAN HOPPER, AP Technology Writer
> 
> WASHINGTON (AP) - Secret Service agents are putting a high-tech twist on
> the idea of a cop walking the beat. Using a laptop computer and an antenna
> fashioned from a Pringles potato chip can, they are looking for security
> holes in
> wireless networks in the nation's capital.
> 
> The agency best known for protecting the president and chasing down
> counterfeiters has started addressing what it calls one of the most
> overlooked
> threats to computer networks.
> 
> "Everybody wants wireless, it's real convenient," Special Agent Wayne
> Peterson said. "Security has always been an afterthought."
> 
> .........and more in the article
> ...............................
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:30:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Afaque Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [BAWUG] Cisco Aironet 340 Firmware needed
> 
> Does anybody have the Cisco Aironet 340 Firmware
> files?  During the web download process from Cisco
> website my power was disconnected, hence, my unit is
> inoperable.  
> 
> However, I can access the file system from the serial
> port.  I believe all my firmware is ok except for a
> config file, which resides in the config space of the
> flash....
> 
> Does anybody have these individual files?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Afaque.
> 
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> Message: 3
> From: "David T. Witkowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'BAWUG'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [BAWUG] X10 and 802.11
> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:58:58 -0700
> 
> The problem occurs because 802.11b uses direct-sequence spread-spectrum
> modulation.  This technique (in theory) distributes the signal's energy
> over a wide bandwidth to reduce or eliminate adjacent channel
> interference.  The reality is that DS spread 802.11b signals don't
> usually interfere with each other--but they will interfere with the X-10
> video repeater.  The amount of spreading is a function of the "spreading
> code"; the longer the code the wider the spread.  Please see Virginia
> Tech's "Wireless FAQ" on spread-spectrum:
> 
>    http://www.cwt.vt.edu/faq/default.htm#sspec
> 
> I have experimented with the same X-10/802.11b setup and found that even
> using a spectrum analyzer to determine the frequency of the X-10 and
> then setting the 802.11b gear as far away as possible did not resolve
> the problem.  
> 
> It may be that the X-10 gear is simply not well-designed; perhaps a
> better receiver front-end with better filtering would have helped.  Then
> again it may be that the DS spreading code is not long enough to
> distribute the signal well, and the interference is truly in-band and
> non-rejectable.  
> 
> In theory, a better video sender system (based perhaps on digital
> modulation such as DS spread or FSK) would not be affected.  I make no
> claims that this is true, caveat emptor and all that.  Your mileage may
> vary.
> 
> ...dtw
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Fred Reinthaler
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:47 AM
> To: BAWUG
> Subject: [BAWUG] X10 and 802.11
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have an "entertainment anywhere" from X10 consisting of a audio/video
> transmitter and receiver using the 2.4Ghz frequency band.  I am also
> using
> 802.11b NICs for my home network.  The problem is that when using the
> X10
> product for video, every few seconds, interference will occur.  There
> are
> four different channels the X10 product can be set to (A,B,C or D) but i
> have no idea to what 802.11 channel this corresponds to and i have tried
> all
> four but still am experiencing interference.
> 
> Now since i am using a specific channel for my wireless network, once
> the
> association is made and a connection is established on a certain
> channel,
> should the NIC still be trying to scan on other channels?  I get the
> impression that's what XP might be doing so if that is the case, is
> there a
> way to change that behaviour?  I will have to do some sniffing and
> analyze
> some packets in order to confirm this but i thought someone that might
> have
> had the same issue could maybe give me a quick answer.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> fred
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Allen Fear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [BAWUG] WAPs with built in router-firewall
> To: Julian Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> http://www.80211-planet.com/news/article/0,4000,1481_1471651,00.html
> 
> With a device like this, does the ISP get to see
> what's connected to your LAN?
> 
> Allen
> 
> --- Julian Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Julian Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >There are a number of WAPs appearing on the market
> > now aimed at the 
> > >residential market
> > 
> > >The reason I ask is that they appear to have a
> > fairly comprehensive 
> > >packet filtering firewall built in. So it looks
> > like it should be 
> > >possible to run a wide open WLAN but still apply
> > enough rules to 
> > >adequately secure both the local LAN and trusted
> > WLAN stations while 
> > >giving access to guests that still prevents the
> > more dangerous 
> > >exploits. In other words, doing a lot of NoCat's
> > job without needing a 
> > >Linux gateway.
> > 
> > Which makes this particularly interesting.
> >
> http://www.80211-planet.com/news/article/0,4000,1481_1471651,00.html
> > 
> > Cable modem, WAP, 4 port ethernet *and* "The
> > router/gateway 
> > functionality also includes security: the
> > VPN-1/FireWall-1 solution from 
> > Check Point Software Technologies, and Safe@, a
> > software program by 
> > Check Point owned SofaWare."
> > 
> > See also Draytek Vigor 2600/we All the above (more
> > or less) but ADSL 
> > modem built in.
> > http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor2600.html
> > 
> > -- 
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> Message: 5
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Nigel Ballard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Allen Fear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>    "Julian Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [BAWUG] WAPs with built in router-firewall
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:17:19 -0700
> 
> If it supports UPnP then technically yes, if not, then no.
> 
> Cheers Nigel
> 
> Nigel Ballard
> Joejava Wireless Consultancy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allen Fear
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:57 AM
> To: Julian Bond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [BAWUG] WAPs with built in router-firewall
> 
> 
> http://www.80211-planet.com/news/article/0,4000,1481_1471651,00.html
> 
> With a device like this, does the ISP get to see
> what's connected to your LAN?
> 
> Allen
> 
> --- Julian Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Julian Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >There are a number of WAPs appearing on the market
> > now aimed at the 
> > >residential market
> > 
> > >The reason I ask is that they appear to have a
> > fairly comprehensive 
> > >packet filtering firewall built in. So it looks
> > like it should be 
> > >possible to run a wide open WLAN but still apply
> > enough rules to 
> > >adequately secure both the local LAN and trusted
> > WLAN stations while 
> > >giving access to guests that still prevents the
> > more dangerous 
> > >exploits. In other words, doing a lot of NoCat's
> > job without needing a 
> > >Linux gateway.
> > 
> > Which makes this particularly interesting.
> >
> http://www.80211-planet.com/news/article/0,4000,1481_1471651,00.html
> > 
> > Cable modem, WAP, 4 port ethernet *and* "The
> > router/gateway 
> > functionality also includes security: the
> > VPN-1/FireWall-1 solution from 
> > Check Point Software Technologies, and Safe@, a
> > software program by 
> > Check Point owned SofaWare."
> > 
> > See also Draytek Vigor 2600/we All the above (more
> > or less) but ADSL 
> > modem built in.
> > http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor2600.html
> > 
> > -- 
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