"Might be" because IANAL.
Also "might" is a qualifier and thus this was not a categorical statement.
And I stated that one should consult a communications lawyer. You simply repeated my statement. Maybe you ought to contact a real communications lawyer to find out

If it has to do with aviation then the Federal Aviation Administration can regulate it. That's what they do - regulate aviation and anything having to do with aviation safety. It's a regulation (not a law, by the way) but if you insist on knowing chapter and verse then go look it up in the Federal Aviation Regulations - commonly referred to as the FARs - or maybe in the FCC regs. But I won't do your homework for you.

I never stated or implied that I have authority in, of, about, around or near the FAA or the airlines. Heck, I'm not an authority on anything and have never claimed to be. I'm just a regular guy who is also a pilot so I know which frequencies are used in civil aviation.

Finally, why are you flaming me? Is your fight with the FAA/FCC/USG so intense and extreme that you are willing to cause collateral damage to people who aren't involved? Even people who do not care about your petty argument?



At 7:32 AM -0600 on 1/18/03, John M Stec wrote:
'might' be?

Since you have not shared with us any specific citation to the alleged law
that makes it 'illegal' I would suggest that you should first consult a
communications lawyer before making categorical statements.

Additionally, my point was and is correct, the FAA and Airlines have no
authority in this area. Apparently you feel that you do.



-----Original Message-----
From: dano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Cliff Skolnick'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Raj Saxena'
Subject: RE: [BAWUG] RE: Anyone heading to Germany next month?


Cell phones in airplanes definitely do hit many cell repeaters and
that's why it's illegal. It's an FAA reg for sure, but it might also
be an FCC reg. Check with a communications lawyer.

At 3:52 PM -0600 on 1/17/03, John M Stec wrote:
Last time I checked, neither the FAA nor the Airlines had any authority to
regulate problems with cell phone traffic except as they related to
airliner
safety.  But that is JUST the sort of bogus power grab that they use to
justify their actions.





-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Skolnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Raj Saxena'; 'dano'
Subject: Re: [BAWUG] RE: Anyone heading to Germany next month?


A real problem is not with the airplane, but also with the fact that
each cell phone on a plane will hit many cell sites and make a mess.
You can experience the same thing by taking a cell phone up on one of
the ridges overlooking silicon valley.  Lots of signal, but can't make
calls until you back away a few feet from the overlook (and masking
some of the sites).  Being overhead is outside the design of the cell
system.

Back in the late 80's with an analog cell phone in a private plane just
a few thousand feet up my friend made a call.  Right after he hung up
the phone rang and it was the cell phone company.  They asked him to
not use his phone in a plane. They said something about him lighting up
their system like a christmas tree when he asked them how they knew.

Cheers,
Cliff
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