Good thing I was following this thread today. I just got the SBC DSL stuff in the mail, and I almost enjoyed uninstalling all of the Yahoo and Connection Manager DSL nonsense after setting up the Linksys router with PPPoE.
Thanks! Jawed On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:09:18 -0800 (PST) > From: Robb Greathouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > To: Enrique LaRoche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Watch out for SBC DSL. We signed-up for it and while they were not able to actually >get us the > service; they continued to bill us for nearly a year. > > We are still waiting for the refund. > > My recommendation is to use any other service (cable modem for example) rather than >start a > relationship with SBC for DSL. > > These are the people for whom the term "DSL HELL" was coined. > > > --- Enrique LaRoche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now I know why my customers are willing to pay for my help on these issues. > > You can load the Enternet software with no bad effects. > > I have it loaded on win xp win 2k pro 98 me etc... This is not a problem. > > It can even be helpful to have it installed if you need to trouble shoot > > with SBC support. > > Loading their software wont do anything bad to your computer. > > What a load of smelly Cod's heads... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > Only problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer. My brother just signed > > up, and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to load their CD on > > your system and connect directly to complete your installation. The only > > way around this is to sign up on line, so you can pick your user name and > > password before they activate your account. This is very important, as > > loading their softwrae will DESTROY your ability to do anything with that > > computer ever again......if you must load it, I suggest getting an old > > pentium pc and loading the crap on that, so you won't care when it destroys > > your system. Once you have your user name and password setup, then follow > > the first posts instructions. Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE the remote > > administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple vulnerabilities > > in it. Other than that, I have helped several others set up this way, and > > am running this way myself, very happily, for over two years. Very seldom > > necessary to reboot unless you are running something pre-win2k...... > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:23 AM > > To: David L. Sifry; r jain > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE connection so you > > don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! SBC DSL on you > > computer. > > At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your Linksys router, select the PPPoE > > login method with your SBC login name/password and the Keep Alive option. > > Then go to the Status tab page and press the Connect button. The router > > will then display a message indicating that you are connected. Everything > > should work fine after waiting about 30 seconds for your computer and router > > to re-synch with this new PPPoE connection. > > Sometimes I do have to reboot my laptop and WSB11 Linksys Wireless Bridge > > after I re-connect my router to my SBC connection. But once I connect, I > > leave my router on with the connection alive and only reboot my router about > > once a week. > > Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too. > > -chris > > "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the DSL > > modem, and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as 802.11b > > wireless. You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11. > > > > They run about $90 on Amazon and there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a sweet > > deal. > > > > Dave > > > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote: > > > Friends: > > > > > > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could not > > > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search) > > > > > > I just signed up with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem > > > with one ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop. > > > > > > I want to add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800 > > > or so option from SBC. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > --rajiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________! ___________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > -- > > David L. Sifry > > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Chris McDaniel > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Enrique LaRoche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:18:24 -0800 > > Do your registration on one of their dialup lines. > or get IE6 > Or use an older version of Enternet. > Ultimately the Windoze world has a cost, "you kind of have to go along with > the program" at least at some minimal level. > > -----Original Message----- > From: David L. Sifry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:09 AM > To: Enrique LaRoche > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > <Rant Mode> > > Yeah, just try doing it on a windows 95 box or on a box that doesn't > have IE 5.5 or later ALREADY INSTALLED. In the end, I had to pull out > my laptop, run WinXP in VMWare just so that I could complete the > freakin' PPPoE registration process with IE 6. And all of this was > because the idiots at SBC had set up a "super-duper" IE-specific > javascript form that tried to correct mistakes for you. If they had > added a simple HTML form for those of us who are using, oh say, Macs or > older windoze boxes, it would have been CUSTOMER FRIENDLY... > > Grrr, I wasted far too much time with their idiotic setup procedure, I'm > glad that I didn't set up any of the privacy-infringing yahoo stuff. > Have you looked at the Yahoo-SBC terms of service and their privacy > policy, btw? Whew! Just the bandwidth, please. > > </Rant mode> > > Dave > > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 09:58, Enrique LaRoche wrote: > > Now I know why my customers are willing to pay for my help on these > issues. > > You can load the Enternet software with no bad effects. > > I have it loaded on win xp win 2k pro 98 me etc... This is not a problem. > > It can even be helpful to have it installed if you need to trouble shoot > > with SBC support. > > Loading their software wont do anything bad to your computer. > > What a load of smelly Cod's heads... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > Only problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer. My brother just signed > > up, and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to load their CD > on > > your system and connect directly to complete your installation. The only > > way around this is to sign up on line, so you can pick your user name and > > password before they activate your account. This is very important, as > > loading their softwrae will DESTROY your ability to do anything with that > > computer ever again......if you must load it, I suggest getting an old > > pentium pc and loading the crap on that, so you won't care when it > destroys > > your system. Once you have your user name and password setup, then follow > > the first posts instructions. Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE the remote > > administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple vulnerabilities > > in it. Other than that, I have helped several others set up this way, and > > am running this way myself, very happily, for over two years. Very seldom > > necessary to reboot unless you are running something pre-win2k...... > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:23 AM > > To: David L. Sifry; r jain > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE connection so you > > don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! SBC DSL on > you > > computer. > > At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your Linksys router, select the > PPPoE > > login method with your SBC login name/password and the Keep Alive option. > > Then go to the Status tab page and press the Connect button. The router > > will then display a message indicating that you are connected. Everything > > should work fine after waiting about 30 seconds for your computer and > router > > to re-synch with this new PPPoE connection. > > Sometimes I do have to reboot my laptop and WSB11 Linksys Wireless Bridge > > after I re-connect my router to my SBC connection. But once I connect, I > > leave my router on with the connection alive and only reboot my router > about > > once a week. > > Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too. > > -chris > > "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the DSL > > modem, and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as 802.11b > > wireless. You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11. > > > > They run about $90 on Amazon and there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a sweet > > deal. > > > > Dave > > > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote: > > > Friends: > > > > > > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could not > > > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search) > > > > > > I just signed up with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem > > > with one ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop. > > > > > > I want to add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800 > > > or so option from SBC. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > --rajiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________! ___________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > -- > > David L. Sifry > > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Chris McDaniel > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > David L. Sifry > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > From: "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Enrique LaRoche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: Sifry Consulting > Date: 06 Feb 2003 10:22:57 -0800 > > So Macintosh users are SOL? > > > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 10:18, Enrique LaRoche wrote: > > Do your registration on one of their dialup lines. > > or get IE6 > > Or use an older version of Enternet. > > Ultimately the Windoze world has a cost, "you kind of have to go along with > > the program" at least at some minimal level. > > My minimal level is HTML. This is the web, not AOL or MSN. > > Dave > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David L. Sifry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:09 AM > > To: Enrique LaRoche > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > <Rant Mode> > > > > Yeah, just try doing it on a windows 95 box or on a box that doesn't > > have IE 5.5 or later ALREADY INSTALLED. In the end, I had to pull out > > my laptop, run WinXP in VMWare just so that I could complete the > > freakin' PPPoE registration process with IE 6. And all of this was > > because the idiots at SBC had set up a "super-duper" IE-specific > > javascript form that tried to correct mistakes for you. If they had > > added a simple HTML form for those of us who are using, oh say, Macs or > > older windoze boxes, it would have been CUSTOMER FRIENDLY... > > > > Grrr, I wasted far too much time with their idiotic setup procedure, I'm > > glad that I didn't set up any of the privacy-infringing yahoo stuff. > > Have you looked at the Yahoo-SBC terms of service and their privacy > > policy, btw? Whew! Just the bandwidth, please. > > > > </Rant mode> > > > > Dave > > > > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 09:58, Enrique LaRoche wrote: > > > Now I know why my customers are willing to pay for my help on these > > issues. > > > You can load the Enternet software with no bad effects. > > > I have it loaded on win xp win 2k pro 98 me etc... This is not a problem. > > > It can even be helpful to have it installed if you need to trouble shoot > > > with SBC support. > > > Loading their software wont do anything bad to your computer. > > > What a load of smelly Cod's heads... > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:38 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > > > > Only problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer. My brother just signed > > > up, and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to load their CD > > on > > > your system and connect directly to complete your installation. The only > > > way around this is to sign up on line, so you can pick your user name and > > > password before they activate your account. This is very important, as > > > loading their softwrae will DESTROY your ability to do anything with that > > > computer ever again......if you must load it, I suggest getting an old > > > pentium pc and loading the crap on that, so you won't care when it > > destroys > > > your system. Once you have your user name and password setup, then follow > > > the first posts instructions. Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE the remote > > > administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple vulnerabilities > > > in it. Other than that, I have helped several others set up this way, and > > > am running this way myself, very happily, for over two years. Very seldom > > > necessary to reboot unless you are running something pre-win2k...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Chris McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:23 AM > > > To: David L. Sifry; r jain > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > > > > The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE connection so you > > > don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! SBC DSL on > > you > > > computer. > > > At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your Linksys router, select the > > PPPoE > > > login method with your SBC login name/password and the Keep Alive option. > > > Then go to the Status tab page and press the Connect button. The router > > > will then display a message indicating that you are connected. Everything > > > should work fine after waiting about 30 seconds for your computer and > > router > > > to re-synch with this new PPPoE connection. > > > Sometimes I do have to reboot my laptop and WSB11 Linksys Wireless Bridge > > > after I re-connect my router to my SBC connection. But once I connect, I > > > leave my router on with the connection alive and only reboot my router > > about > > > once a week. > > > Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too. > > > -chris > > > "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the DSL > > > modem, and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as 802.11b > > > wireless. You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11. > > > > > > They run about $90 on Amazon and there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a sweet > > > deal. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote: > > > > Friends: > > > > > > > > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could not > > > > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search) > > > > > > > > I just signed up with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem > > > > with one ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop. > > > > > > > > I want to add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800 > > > > or so option from SBC. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > --rajiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________! ___________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > > -- > > > David L. Sifry > > > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > > > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > > > > > -- > > > general wireless list, a bawug thing > > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > > > Chris McDaniel > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > David L. Sifry > > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > -- > David L. Sifry > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:29:02 -0800 > From: Aaron T Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:09:02AM -0800, David L. Sifry wrote: > > <Rant Mode> > > Grrr, I wasted far too much time with their idiotic setup procedure, I'm > > glad that I didn't set up any of the privacy-infringing yahoo stuff. > > Have you looked at the Yahoo-SBC terms of service and their privacy > > policy, btw? Whew! Just the bandwidth, please. > > > > </Rant mode> > > Oh please. You're in the SF Bay area and you choose to use SBC as > your ISP? You deserve what you get! These are the people who sell your > telephone calling history, you think their 'net service will be any > better? Take your business to any of the local ISPs that will treat you > nicely, not spy on you, and won't even make you use PPPoE. > > http://rawbandwidth.com > http://sonic.net > http://cruzio.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Ian Emmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'David L. Sifry'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "'Enrique LaRoche'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:37:37 -0800 > > I hat to point it out but 95 is going on 8 years old and is quite > obsolete (which is why MS refuses to support it any longer) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David L. Sifry > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:09 AM > To: Enrique LaRoche > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > <Rant Mode> > > Yeah, just try doing it on a windows 95 box or on a box that doesn't > have IE 5.5 or later ALREADY INSTALLED. In the end, I had to pull out > my laptop, run WinXP in VMWare just so that I could complete the > freakin' PPPoE registration process with IE 6. And all of this was > because the idiots at SBC had set up a "super-duper" IE-specific > javascript form that tried to correct mistakes for you. If they had > added a simple HTML form for those of us who are using, oh say, Macs or > older windoze boxes, it would have been CUSTOMER FRIENDLY... > > Grrr, I wasted far too much time with their idiotic setup procedure, I'm > glad that I didn't set up any of the privacy-infringing yahoo stuff. > Have you looked at the Yahoo-SBC terms of service and their privacy > policy, btw? Whew! Just the bandwidth, please. > > </Rant mode> > > Dave > > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 09:58, Enrique LaRoche wrote: > > Now I know why my customers are willing to pay for my help on these > > issues. You can load the Enternet software with no bad effects. I have > > > it loaded on win xp win 2k pro 98 me etc... This is not a problem. It > > can even be helpful to have it installed if you need to trouble shoot > > with SBC support. Loading their software wont do anything bad to your > > computer. What a load of smelly Cod's heads... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > Only problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer. My brother just > > signed up, and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to > > load their CD on your system and connect directly to complete your > > installation. The only way around this is to sign up on line, so you > > can pick your user name and password before they activate your > > account. This is very important, as loading their softwrae will > > DESTROY your ability to do anything with that computer ever > > again......if you must load it, I suggest getting an old pentium pc > > and loading the crap on that, so you won't care when it destroys your > > system. Once you have your user name and password setup, then follow > > the first posts instructions. Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE the > > remote administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple > > vulnerabilities in it. Other than that, I have helped several others > > set up this way, and am running this way myself, very happily, for > > over two years. Very seldom necessary to reboot unless you are > > running something pre-win2k...... > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:23 AM > > To: David L. Sifry; r jain > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE connection so > > > you don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! SBC > > DSL on you computer. At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your > > Linksys router, select the PPPoE login method with your SBC login > > name/password and the Keep Alive option. Then go to the Status tab > > page and press the Connect button. The router will then display a > > message indicating that you are connected. Everything should work > > fine after waiting about 30 seconds for your computer and router to > > re-synch with this new PPPoE connection. Sometimes I do have to reboot > > > my laptop and WSB11 Linksys Wireless Bridge after I re-connect my > > router to my SBC connection. But once I connect, I leave my router on > > > with the connection alive and only reboot my router about once a week. > > Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too. > > -chris > > "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the DSL > > modem, and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as 802.11b > > wireless. You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11. > > > > They run about $90 on Amazon and there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a sweet > > > deal. > > > > Dave > > > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote: > > > Friends: > > > > > > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could not > > > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search) > > > > > > I just signed up with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem > > > with one ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop. > > > > > > I want to add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800 > > > > or so option from SBC. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > --rajiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________! > > > ___________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > -- > > David L. Sifry > > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Chris McDaniel > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > David L. Sifry > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "Jason Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:48:18 -0800 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2CDCD.42973230 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > MessageI have SBC DSL and uninstalling their Enternet app was no big deal. > I didn't suffer any PC problems after uninstalling it. The reason they > require it is because their signup process is electronic and automated -- > once you sign up and get your username/password you can dump their software > and put the required info into your broadband router and you're set! > > I've done this for several clients with no problems. If their software > "destroys" your PC, maybe you have other issues such as a broken Windows > installation or some missing files or something. All their software does is > install some network drivers to do the PPoE and set your NIC to use DHCP. > You can easily change these settings back after uninstalling their app. > > To say that their software "will DESTROY your ability to do anything with > that computer ever again" is going a little too far. > > --Jason > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > Only problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer. My brother just signed > up, and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to load their CD on > your system and connect directly to complete your installation. The only > way around this is to sign up on line, so you can pick your user name and > password before they activate your account. This is very important, as > loading their softwrae will DESTROY your ability to do anything with that > computer ever again......if you must load it, I suggest getting an old > pentium pc and loading the crap on that, so you won't care when it destroys > your system. Once you have your user name and password setup, then follow > the first posts instructions. Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE the remote > administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple vulnerabilities > in it. Other than that, I have helped several others set up this way, and > am running this way myself, very happily, for over two years. Very seldom > necessary to reboot unless you are running something pre-win2k...... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:23 AM > To: David L. Sifry; r jain > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE connection so > you don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! SBC DSL on > you computer. > > At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your Linksys router, select the > PPPoE login method with your SBC login name/password and the Keep Alive > option. > > Then go to the Status tab page and press the Connect button. The router > will then display a message indicating that you are connected. Everything > should work fine after waiting about 30 seconds for your computer and router > to re-synch with this new PPPoE connection. > > Sometimes I do have to reboot my laptop and WSB11 Linksys Wireless > Bridge after I re-connect my router to my SBC connection. But once I > connect, I leave my router on with the connection alive and only reboot my > router about once a week. > > Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too. > > -chris > > "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the DSL > modem, and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as 802.11b > wireless. You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11. > > They run about $90 on Amazon and there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a sweet > deal. > > Dave > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote: > > Friends: > > > > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could not > > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search) > > > > I just signed up with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem > > with one ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop. > > > > I want to add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800 > > or so option from SBC. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > --rajiv > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________! > ___________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > -- > David L. Sifry > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > Chris McDaniel > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2CDCD.42973230 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> > <BODY> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D150584418-06022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = > size=3D2>I have=20 > SBC DSL and uninstalling their Enternet app was no big deal. I = > didn't=20 > suffer any PC problems after uninstalling it. The reason they = > require it=20 > is because their signup process is electronic and automated -- once you = > sign up=20 > and get your username/password you can dump their software and put the = > required=20 > info into your broadband router and you're set!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D150584418-06022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D150584418-06022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = > size=3D2>I've=20 > done this for several clients with no problems. If their software=20 > "destroys" your PC, maybe you have other issues such as a broken Windows = > > installation or some missing files or something. All their = > software does=20 > is install some network drivers to do the PPoE and set your NIC to use=20 > DHCP. You can easily change these settings back after uninstalling = > their=20 > app.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D150584418-06022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D150584418-06022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = > size=3D2>To say=20 > that their software "will DESTROY your ability to do anything with = > that=20 > computer ever again" is going a little too far.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D150584418-06022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = > > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D150584418-06022003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = > > size=3D2>--Jason</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = > face=3DTahoma=20 > size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<B>On=20 > Behalf Of </B>[EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, = > February 06,=20 > 2003 9:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];=20 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Cc:</B> = > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 > RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D571433317-06022003><FONT face=3DArial = > color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Only=20 > problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer. My brother just = > signed up,=20 > and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to load their CD = > on your=20 > system and connect directly to complete your installation. The = > only way=20 > around this is to sign up on line, so you can pick your user name and = > password=20 > before they activate your account. This is very important, as = > loading=20 > their softwrae will DESTROY your ability to do anything with that = > computer=20 > ever again......if you must load it, I suggest getting an old pentium = > pc and=20 > loading the crap on that, so you won't care when it destroys your=20 > system. Once you have your user name and password setup, then = > follow the=20 > first posts instructions. Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE the = > remote=20 > administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple = > vulnerabilities in=20 > it. Other than that, I have helped several others set up this = > way, and=20 > am running this way myself, very happily, for over two years. = > Very=20 > seldom necessary to reboot unless you are running something=20 > pre-win2k......</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format --><BR><BR> > <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV></DIV> > <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = > align=3Dleft><FONT=20 > face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = > Chris McDaniel=20 > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February = > 06,=20 > 2003 12:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> David L. Sifry; r jain<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and=20 > Wireless<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> > <P>The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE = > connection so=20 > you don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! = > SBC DSL on=20 > you computer. =20 > <P>At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your Linksys router, = > select the=20 > PPPoE login method with your SBC login name/password and the = > Keep Alive=20 > option. =20 > <P>Then go to the Status tab page and press the Connect = > button. The=20 > router will then display a message indicating that you are = > connected. =20 > Everything should work fine after waiting about 30 seconds for your = > computer=20 > and router to re-synch with this new PPPoE connection. =20 > <P>Sometimes I do have to reboot my laptop and WSB11 Linksys = > Wireless=20 > Bridge after I re-connect my router to my SBC = > connection. But=20 > once I connect, I leave my router on with the connection alive = > and only=20 > reboot my router about once a week.=20 > <P>Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too.=20 > <P>-chris=20 > <P> <B><I>"David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></I></B> = > wrote:=20 > <BLOCKQUOTE=20 > style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff = > 2px solid">A=20 > linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the = > DSL<BR>modem,=20 > and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as = > 802.11b<BR>wireless.=20 > You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11.<BR><BR>They run about $90 on = > Amazon and=20 > there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a = > sweet<BR>deal.<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR>On Wed,=20 > 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote:<BR>> Friends: <BR>> = > <BR>>=20 > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could = > not<BR>>=20 > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search)<BR>> <BR>> I just = > signed up=20 > with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem<BR>> with = > one=20 > ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop. <BR>> <BR>> I = > want to=20 > add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800<BR>> = > or so=20 > option from SBC. <BR>> <BR>> Thanks in advance. <BR>> = > <BR>>=20 > --rajiv <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>=20 > ___________________________________!=20 > ___________________________________<BR>> Do you Yahoo!?<BR>> = > Yahoo!=20 > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now<BR>-- <BR>David L.=20 > Sifry<BR>GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html<BR>Key = > Fingerprint:=20 > 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 = > D1B0<BR><BR>--<BR>general=20 > wireless list, a bawug thing <HTTP: www.bawug.org = > /><BR>[un]subscribe:=20 > = > http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Chri= > s=20 > = > McDaniel<BR>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2CDCD.42973230-- > > > > > --__--__-- > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > End of wireless Digest > -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
