IEEE 802.1aa is the PAR to revised IEEE 802.1X. The revision document, currently at D5, includes revised state machines for both Supplicant and Authenticator, as well as a revised RADIUS usage Appendix, and an udpate for 802.11. At this point, the work is fairly far along and probably will become an IEEE standard (updating IEEE 802.1X-2001) sometime in 2003 or early 2004.
Access to the IEEE 802.1 archive (and ability to submit ballot comments) is not restricted to IEEE members. For example, access to the IEEE 802.1 archive was granted to participants in the IETF EAP WG, for purposes of coordination of their work with IEEE 802.1aa. EAP WG is in the process of revising RFC 2284, on which IEEE 802.1X-2001 was based. In addition to RFC 2284bis, the WG is currently developing an EAP State machine and keying framework document. Status of the EAP work and IEEE 802.1 liason is available on the EAP WG Issues web page, at: http://wwww.drizzle.com/~aboba/EAP/eapissues.html > Message: 10 > From: "R. Simkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WLAN list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:16:04 -0000 > Subject: [BAWUG] 802.1aa > > Hi, > > I can't get any drafts from IEEE as I am not a member. > Can anyone please give me the lowdown on this standard? > How does it relate to 802.1x? > > Thanks > > Rob > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:44:28 +0100 > To: "R. Simkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: Jacques Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] 802.1aa > Cc: "WLAN list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi, > > 802.1aa is an update to 802.1X, fixing a number of issues found since the > release of the standard, coordinating changes with the new EAP RFC being > prepared, and preparing integration with 802.11i. There are some changes in > the state machines as well as in the protocol itself (for the key > distribution frames). > > Members of the IETF EAP working group have access to the 802.1 drafts, > check out the EAP WG mailing list. > > Hope that helps, > > Jacques. > > At 13:16 20/03/2003, R. Simkins wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I can't get any drafts from IEEE as I am not a member. > >Can anyone please give me the lowdown on this standard? > >How does it relate to 802.1x? > > > >Thanks > > > >Rob > >-- > >general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > >[un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > -- Jacques Caron, IP Sector Technologies > Join the discussion on public WLAN open global roaming: > http://lists.ipsector.com/listinfo/openroaming > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > From: "Jon from Nova Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] trillian and wifi... > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:52:22 -0500 > > I think I have solved this one and here is what I learned: > 2 trillian users: > both experience weird disassociations and packet loss. > the symptoms definitely present themselves while using trillian. > AOL AIM seems to remedy the situation. > Final analysis: > nothing trillian related at all. > one user was connecting to the network via a wap11 in client mode in a > weather-proof box at the apex to his roof with a 12 db panel using PoE > across his roof, down his house (3 floors) and into his house, and then half > way across the house and into the closet. (from there: ICS box to wap11 to > like 6 laptops inhouse). Whole rig worked great for like 2 months and has > been flakey for like 2 weeks. Wireless link shuts down completely and won't > reassociate for HOURS... (nothing in the base AP's logs at all) > Than after a couple hours or so a weak link starts up, gets better and then > works great for between 2 and 20 hours... real frustrating... > he is also my most remote user but when his link is good, it is great... > > second user: lives one townhouse over from the house that hosts one of my > remote AP's. > he uses a USB adapter to connect to the network I installed and configured > personally. > he has an 80% signal ALL the time. Every once in a while he disassociates > and has to disconnect and reconnect his USB adapter and that only helps > sometimes. sometimes he has to this this very often and it seems to happen a > lot while using trillian, he switched to AOL AIM and it fixed things > briefly.. like 2 days, and then the problem resurfaces. He finally agreed > to an onsite visit and I found he had added a USB hub and his wireless NIC > was plugged into that... > I have never read it anywhere, but I know those things are bad. > My experience say 16' USB cables are fine, 20' is usually ok, 25' rarely > works and all of this depends on the make and model usb adapter you have > dangling. I think this is all timing related but I'm just guessing and > sharing what I've seen. USB hubs should be avoided... Taking that thing > out of the mix fixed all of this guys problem (and 2 others I've seen). He > still reassociates once or twice a day, but it never causes an interruption > and everything (including trillian) work great and have for a week solid. > The other trillian troubled guy had all of his problems fixed like this: > His cable from the roof to the ground was too long. not enough power was > making it to the roof to keep the radio up I'm assuming here. really > strange: his ethernet interface stayed up, I could configure, flash > firmware, etc. from his end of things, just no link to the main access > point. I tried reverting his firmware back from 1.4i.1 and his AP ended up > just returning one out of 6 ping attempts successfully and failing on all > the rest. rebooting itself over and over, again I'm assuming. no info was > available aside from that and I was about to go get my ladder, cross my > fingers and head for his roof). instead, here's what I did: I hacked his > cable... > I powered everything down, disconnected the wall wart, and left the network > punched down. > I went across the room to where the cable enters the house (basement > nid/cable tv entry) and used a razor to open the jacket of the ethernet > cable and I split the blue pair and the brown pair and connected my wall > wart right there (saving about 20' of cable for the power to travel). I > went back to my laptop and everything was up working and perfect. > I can unplug and replug and get a solid reassociation every time and the > logs are clear from this client except for of course the very occasional > reassociation (stranger still: he used to reassociate every 30 minutes, 42 > and 12 minutes after the hour exactly, but thats gone now). It's been 2 and > a half days since this bit of surgery and he hasn't lost a packet since. > sorry, I know this has been explained here before, but can someone make it > clear exactly what to buy from radio shack to compensate for making your > cable longer: wap11 wall wart says 4-5.5v and 2.6-2.3 a. it has been my > experience that radio shack doesn't stock much over 1 amp. > doesn't that not have enough juice to do what we need? I really can't add > 50 or 60 bucks to my install cost. > > sorry for the long windedness (I can't help it), but some poor guy might do > a google search and hit this that is having the same troubles and it's no > good unless you post the solution. > > long story short: > New info for me #1: USB cables: the shorter the better after 16'. also: > STAY AWAY FROM USB HUB's > Users almost always have 2 USB ports and I make them swap immediately if > I'm on site. > New info for me #2: PoE: pretty simple stuff but when something isn't right > it might not be black and white... I could access this guys client mode AP > using his ethernet side, just not enough power to light the radio, shorten > the pairs headed for the power adapter and try again. > > hope this helps someone: > thanks to everyone whos info has saved me in the past and future on here. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernard Michael Tyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:31 AM > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] trillian and wifi... > > > > Jon from Nova Wireless wrote: > > > I couldn't possibly be the only one... > > > is anyone else having all sorts of trouble with user having trillian > > > running? > > > I am experiencing extremely unstable links when users connect to > trillian > > > services. > > > Perfect links (no packets lost for 24 hours) are suffering > disassociation > > > and packet loss as soon as users connect to trillian. > > > other trillian users are unable to maintain a constant connection. the > > > problem goes away as soon as trillian is closed. no trouble when the > users > > > use AOL IM client. > > > really frustrating... > > > > > > > <SCHNIP> > > > > Hi John, > > > > I use Trillian (ver1.0c) over my WiFi link in my apartment. > > What version do you use? > > > > There have been some updates for Trillian (regulart updates. Not > > wireless related), due to problems with the AOL IM network. > > > > I would suggest you try upgrading. > > > > let us know what happens. > > -- > > rgrds, > > bernard > > -- > > Bernard Tyers * National Centre for Sensor Research * P:353-1-700-5273 * > > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * W:www.physics.dcu.ie/~bty * L:N117 > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > From: "Blue Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "bawug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] WAP11 v2.6 Hack > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:36:41 -0800 > > Linksys is supposed to offer all of the same features in the v2.6 as the > DWL900+ via a firmware upgrade to be released before summer. > > Another Linksys tidbit; it is rumored that Cisco will acquire Linksys. Look > for a press release later today. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roberto Ramirez > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:53 PM > To: bawug > Subject: [BAWUG] WAP11 v2.6 Hack > > > from what I know you cant. It has different hardware > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:49:49 -0700 > From: "Peter Boucher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WLAN list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [BAWUG] 802.1 linksec WG > > Interesting papers here: > http://www.ieee802.org/linksec/meetings/Mar03/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:50:46 -0800 > From: Gene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] trillian and wifi... > > For USB hubs, it's best to use powered hubs for longer distances. > > And as for the PoE, there's probably a too much of a voltage drop for > the WAP11, also affectionately known as POS. Consider using a higher > voltage and regulate it at the AP end. > > G. > > Jon from Nova Wireless wrote: > > > long story short: > > New info for me #1: USB cables: the shorter the better after 16'. also: > > STAY AWAY FROM USB HUB's > > Users almost always have 2 USB ports and I make them swap immediately if > > I'm on site. > > New info for me #2: PoE: pretty simple stuff but when something isn't right > > it might not be black and white... I could access this guys client mode AP > > using his ethernet side, just not enough power to light the radio, shorten > > the pairs headed for the power adapter and try again. > > > > hope this helps someone: > > thanks to everyone whos info has saved me in the past and future on here. > > > > > > --__--__-- > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > End of wireless Digest > -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
