I agree with you Patrick. I'm running in to the same dilemma. It's not
like there are antenna retailers around the corner I can turn to. I can
either buy a 8dbi antenna from say... Supperpass, try to shoot thru some
trees with it, it fails, then order a 12dbi, and then an 18dbi. What
I'll end up with is a pile of unused antennas. I really wish Fry's down
the street carries this stuff so I can easily return the ones that
aren't right for me.



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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:17 PM
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Your antennas are horrendous overkill for the application. Those are the
sort of antennas you use to go 15 or many more miles, NOT 400 meters.
What you are doing is tossing noise out many miles beyond and it is
considered very poor RF design practices. This is not a slam, it is just
something to learn and the person that sold you the antenna should have
known better. You should replace the antennas with a small 8dBi at most.


Regards,

Patrick Leary

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From: Loren Zemenick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:09 PM
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I have two links that penetrate trees, one about 400 meters and the
other about 800. The 400 meter link uses a pair of 18 dbi antennas. The
800 meter link uses a 17 dbi and a 24 dbi. All links use Linksys
WAP11's. The key issues is the density of your folage. I would try it
knowing if you can get a single ping returned with the omni, a
directional will give you a healthy fade margin.

Loren Zemenick

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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:47 PM
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Subject: [BAWUG] A few little trees - wheres my saw gone


ok chaps, im goin to ask a question that youve probably all heard before
and are fed up with answering. I currently have a high gain antenna on
the top of my employers building. about 15dB hyperlink directional grid.

I have just moved to a house about 400 meters away (maybe less). On the
side of the house there is this great big 10 foot pole where the
previous owner used it for a TV antenna (Cable rocks tbh).

So i have come up with the idea of putting an omni directional at the
top of this pole and seeing if i can link.

Problem is the good ole LOS, i cant see my house because of trees and
houses and stuff from my employers roof. Is it not even worth bothering
to attempt to link the two or is there a chance that signal may either
bounce or penertrate. Also i might have LOS i just havent got a ladder
long enough or the the guts to go up and have a look, looks about 20-25
feet.

Thanks

Richy


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