Thrills.  The author of the PDF re-winds us all the way back to when
IPV6 was named "SIP", and Steve Deering was talking about exactly what
is covered in the PDF.


Sigh.



S Woodside writes:
> FYI for those who are working on geographic routing schemes.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> > From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon Jul 14, 2003  5:34:42 PM Canada/Eastern
> > To: Geoff Huston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: IETF 57 Multu6 WG - Monday morning session - minutes
> >
> > On maandag, jul 14, 2003, at 19:02 Europe/Amsterdam, Geoff Huston 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> - - draft-van-beijnum-multi6-isp-int-aggr-01.txt, Iljitsch van 
> >> Beijnum,
> >>    15 min
> >
> >>   Geographical aggregation. Admitted that topology is not correlated 
> >> to geography, and even if the geo part doesn't work there are still 
> >> some savings.
> >
> >
> > I did say a little more than that... I'll put the slides up at 
> > http://www.muada.com/ietf57-isp-int.pdf as soon as I'm online again 
> > (which should be around the time this message gets out). In the mean 
> > time:
> >
> > - Goal is enabling multihoming ASAP. This is a short term solution.
> > - It works by distributing the global routing table over the routers 
> > within an (ISP) network rather than giving every router a full copy as 
> > is done today.
> > - This would lead to scenic routing but the geo aspect repairs this.
> > - Unless there is insufficient interconnection between networks, then 
> > aggregation must be broken.
> > - Geographic aggregates are internal to each network and not annouced 
> > externally.
> > - Correlation between topology and geography is less than 1, but also 
> > more than 0 and even without geography there are still some savings.
> > - No real downsides: RIRs must implement geographic address 
> > allocation, ISPs can implement this (or not) at their convenience.
> >
> >> MH: This gives little actual aggregation
> >> ?: Asymmetrical routes break in your model
> >> IvB: Routing is asymmetrical in multi-homing in any case.
> >
> > What I said was: today it's assymmetrical anyway (re hot potato 
> > routing) and when both sides do geo aggregation it is still 
> > assymmetrical, when one end is geo multihomed and the other isn't it's 
> > symmetrical. But read the draft as it has a section on exactly this 
> > issue from an ISP traffic distribution viewpoint.
> >
> >> Tony Hain: Aggregatibility is the question. The concept appears fine, 
> >> but you are making assumptions about aggregation boundaries here.
> >
> > Short answer: you can make your own boundaries or this can even work 
> > with your (Tony's) geographic addressing plan. Long answer: no time 
> > for the long answer...
> >
> >
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