I can get LVL3 and Wiltel to do it but only at a OC3 commit. Roof rights
are iffy as the hut is own by ATT and
they STILL claim not to own this fiber route. LVL3 says they do (and
lease 2 pair running OC-192's on them).
Wonder what DF will cost, to bad they dont terminate where i need them to.
Jeromie Reeves
Matt Liotta wrote:
Nope; In fact, I have never run into any carrier that would do that.
All the dark fiber we lease we get roof rights at every regen.
-Matt
Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Are you able to get XO to break out at a fiber hut where (according
to the map) they have fiber but no POP?
Jeromie Reeves
Matt Liotta wrote:
We have a national wholesale agreement with XO, which among other
things can get us very low cost colo and roof rights at their switches.
-Matt
Anthony Will wrote:
In central MN here also. I would be very interested in a project
such as this. This is the ONLY way we will truly survive. I am
currently working on a way to get into the Metro area to gain
access to cheap pipes. Hopefully we will end up in XO's or calpops
CO.
See how easy it is to get something like this started. I know that
I am south of Mike. I also know that two other WISPs are south of
me all the way to Iowa. Now if we can get those guys on board
anyone in Iowa or Illanios is likely close enough to make this
real. NOW from Illanios it really opens up..... I am an old
friend to an operation on the west side of Chicago connected to
Equinix, one of the largest carriers hotels in the nation. Now
with all the wisps together we could easily afford an OCx and get
some real pricing. And with everyone sharing in the expense we
could make this licensed equipment for a rock solid backbone for
all of our networks.
Anthony Will
Ruralnet Inc.
www.veryfastinternet.com (please excuse the cheesy site. We are in
process of completely reworking a new site.)
Mike Bushard Jr wrote:
I'm in, Central MN
Mike Bushard Jr
Reliable Internet Services
1st Rate Computers
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE
Hi Brian,
Well we led a session that started a dialog on this topic. It got
quite
loud at times..... The end result was I am willing to donate time
to map out
in one location all of the data people send me with locations of
POP's,
fiber hotels and other inexpensive sources of bandwidth. This
could be from
any source like fiber (lit or dark) or companies that have
bandwidth to
sell. If there are WISP's who want to share the backbones they
have, we can
map them too. I basically just need a list of locations by lat and
long or
street address. If I can get enough different sources of data I
will map it
and make it available on line. The idea is that WISP's can see how
far away
from cheap backhaul they really are and then they can figure out a
way to
bring it to their location. This could also serve as a way to get
regional
groups together to build a mutually beneficial backbone. The
mapping can
have clickable information about each site if that is included in
the data
sent.
If this starts to take off the idea was suggested that a national
group or
co-op be formed to manage this backbone so that one person or
company could
not bring down or segment part of the network. There were many
ideas and
issues brought up about this. I don't want to get this thread
started on all
of that. I really just want to see where were are with access to
cheap
bandwidth and how we might be able to stitch together an ad hoc
backbone for
the time being. Anyone who is interested in this project please
send me an
email with WISPBONE in the subject line. I will create a
distribution list
for now and if we get it going we can set up a list somewhere to
have an
online forum. To date I have no input from any of the people who
were in the
session. Just like most of these good ideas, I feel it will die
because
everyone is too busy with their own business and they hope someone
else will
get it going.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
Free World Dialup #481416
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering
I was told to bring this up after WiNog. Well.......????
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