Find the closest POP to you on their map and let me know. I can get the address from XO, so you can do a path analysis and determine if you can do wireless to their roof. Their buildings are generally only 2 stories.

-Matt

Jory Privett wrote:

I have seen the map. My question is exactly where are they and how do I gain access to them? Copper and Fiber are out of the question for me because of ILEC pricing so I would have to have some type of wireless link.

Jory Privett
WCCS

----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE


XO's map is available at their web site.

-Matt

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is there a list so we can all see the locations?  Are you able to get
principal members of WISPA any deals?

Brian

Jory Privett wrote:

I would be interested in finding out if one of there switches is in my area.

Jory Privett
WCCS

----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE


We have a national wholesale agreement with XO, which among other things
can get us very low cost colo and roof rights at their switches.

-Matt

Anthony Will wrote:



In central MN here also.   I would be very interested in a project
such as this.  This is the ONLY way we will truly survive.  I am
currently working on a way to get into the Metro area to gain access
to cheap pipes.  Hopefully we will end up in XO's or calpops CO.

See how easy it is to get something like this started.  I know that I
am south of Mike.  I also know that two other WISPs are south of me
all the way to Iowa.  Now if we can get those guys on board anyone in
Iowa or Illanios is likely close enough to make this real.  NOW from
Illanios it really opens up.....  I am an old friend to an operation
on the west side of Chicago connected to Equinix, one of the largest
carriers hotels in the nation.  Now with all the wisps together we
could easily afford an OCx and get some real pricing.  And with
everyone sharing in the expense we could make this licensed equipment
for a rock solid backbone for all of our networks.

Anthony Will
Ruralnet Inc.
www.veryfastinternet.com (please excuse the cheesy site.  We are in
process of completely reworking a new site.)


Mike Bushard Jr wrote:



I'm in, Central MN

Mike Bushard Jr
Reliable Internet Services
1st Rate Computers

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE

Hi Brian,
  Well we led a session that started a dialog on this topic. It got
quite
loud at times..... The end result was I am willing to donate time to
map out
in one location all of the data people send me with locations of POP's,
fiber hotels and other inexpensive sources of bandwidth. This could
be from
any source like fiber (lit or dark) or companies that have bandwidth to
sell. If there are WISP's who want to share the backbones they have,
we can
map them too. I basically just need a list of locations by lat and
long or
street address. If I can get enough different sources of data I will
map it
and make it available on line. The idea is that WISP's can see how
far away
from cheap backhaul they really are and then they can figure out a
way to
bring it to their location. This could also serve as a way to get
regional
groups together to build a mutually beneficial backbone. The mapping can
have clickable information about each site if that is included in the
data
sent.
  If this starts to take off the idea was suggested that a national
group or
co-op be formed to manage this backbone so that one person or company
could
not bring down or segment part of the network. There were many ideas and
issues brought up about this. I don't want to get this thread started
on all
of that. I really just want to see where were are with access to cheap
bandwidth and how we might be able to stitch together an ad hoc
backbone for
the time being. Anyone who is interested in this project please send
me an
email with WISPBONE in the subject line. I will create a distribution
list
for now and if we get it going we can set up a list somewhere to have an
online forum. To date I have no input from any of the people who were
in the
session. Just like most of these good ideas, I feel it will die because
everyone is too busy with their own business and they hope someone
else will
get it going.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
Free World Dialup #481416


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering


I was told to bring this up after WiNog.  Well.......????

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