Hear, hear. I actually think the "who" is a relevant concern though. The "who" could have more impact if it is someone speaking from experience. Who is the most professional, legitimate representative of the entire WISP industry? Who is the most likely to rep every WISP's interests here? Who will provide an account of the WISP Industry's ability (not the unsuccessful coordination efforts) in delivering communications services to these people? If that's Anderson, so be it - get behind him 110% and nail this thing for everyone's benefit.
If both groups are on equal parity though, isn't it much more powerful and meaningful for the WISP Industry to have a representative that IS doing and HAS done something there on the ground to hit the same talking points though? (sure, I'm biased here) but I say let the person who has successfully executed on the ground speak from first hand experience, without bias or personal gain or any conflict of interest - no matter where they pay association dues. I would think Mike would be willing to let someone he knows, most likely trusts and is IN most of those pictures talk first hand about what's actually being done for the people there for those 5 minutes. I can't imagine Michael would be worried about you pushing yourself (Matt) or WISPA in front of P15 or delivering an unbalanced, biased message. You have no track record of that soft of behavior. He's got nothing to lose but maybe a bruised ego. What's right, good and most impactful for the whole Industry here gang? You guys have thrown your support behind Michael and extended the olive branch on more than one occasion. I think it's time for Michael to show a true sign of support for the rest of the Industry that isn't a dues-paying P15 member. Matt, I believe the Industry needs you there man - are you able to shake free or are you already stretched too thin from doing so much? Happy to help you get out there if Anderson would be kind enough to let you participate and speak on everyone's behalf. Michael, if you are on this list, please consider the impact of a first hand account - for everyone's sake. jp Jon Price Managing Dir, ISPCON CEO, The Golden Group, Inc. P: 720.221.7225 F: 720.221.7477 www.inboxevent.com www.ispcon.com Inside ISPCON Blog: http://ispcon.blogs.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISPTeams ForFCCPresentation on Thursday I know Matt has been away from home a bunch lately but I think we should send Matt Larsen to this FCC event if he will go. We can take the $500 from Charles as part of the expense and have WISPA cover the rest. I think we need a front line guy to speak at this event. I think we should ask Michael to introduce Matt and yield a bit of his time if the FCC will not grant Matt his own time. This shows unity between industry groups and gives Part-15 and WISPA both an opportunity to show our efforts in helping those in need. Thoughts? Scriv Rick Harnish wrote: >Congratulations Charles, so now we have a "little Wu" I'm sure you're >a proud father. That's great. > >I'm not trying to start an argument here but WISPA was not invited to >attend this function. We received very late notice about the >conference call two weeks ago and none of us caught it in time. >Because of that missed conference call, Part-15 submitted a plan to the >FCC and became one of the "approved vendors". It is my understanding >that this open commission meeting is to allow those vendors to tell their story. > >Each vendor has five minutes to give a short presentation. Would the >FCC allow another slot for WISPA? I'm not sure, maybe Marlon would >have insight into this. The next question is: Do we want to portray a >divided industry with Part-15 and WISPA taking credit for the same >work? Michael has asked the WISPA board to provide him with bullet >points of what we have accomplished this week. He given his word to >portray WISPA as an important contributor in the efforts of this week >and last week. He is very aware that the Mac Dearman team has been >aligned much closer to WISPA than Part-15 and he realizes the damage he >will do to his own reputation if he labels this effort as a Part-15 project. > >I am unable to make this trip myself even with Charles great contribution. >I have been burning the candle at both ends the last two weeks and have >plans to go help Mac's Team this weekend. I have been accumulating a >truckload of supplies, computers, monitors, etc. from my local >community this week. If WISPA needs to have a representative in >Washington on Thursday, I suggest someone step up. I don't believe it >necessarily needs to be a board member. Mac would be great, but do we >really want to ask him to do more than he already is? Matt Larsen >would be great as well, so would Marlon. We will need to get on the >agenda right away if someone is committed to do this. > >I have been communicating with Michael a lot lately and I believe I >have convinced him that part of his frustration in getting assistance >has been because his first several press releases focused most of the >attention on Part-15. He IS GETTING BETTER now. He took on a huge >project, one that is bigger than any one man can handle himself. He >has assigned volunteers to help lead different aspects of his plan. If >you really look at it, Michael took the reigns of a "no win" task. I >know I appreciate his willingness to do this......I recognized that I >didn't have the time to do it right now and thus recommended that WISPA >throw our support behind his effort to consolidate resources and give the public a view of a stronger effort. > >So, Michael has been burdened with this huge project and now has a >competing association board and members to deal with at the same time. >He not only has to organize the effort but he has to try to keep the >WISPA members happy at the same time. Sound impossible? It does to >me! The real fact is, Michael Anderson has done a trememdous amount >for our industry in the last 5 years. Not everything he does is >approved by everyone, how can it be. Heck that is why WISPA got >started in the first place. Is WISPA perfect, no way, we get >criticized all the time for different things. Face it, our industry is >a group of rather independent thinkers and businessmen that want to >prove that they can do it on their own. We are all leaders in our own minds, we bring solutions to people everyday that make their lives better. > >I personally think it is time for the Part-15 leadership and the WISPA >leadership to unite our efforts or our fragmented industry will crumble >a slow death. For some that means swallowing some "crow", but if we >truly care about the industry and our future, we need to open our eyes, >recognize our weaknesses and other's strengths and combine these >resources to create a powerful team. > >Ok, flame away! :P > >Rick Harnish >President >OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. >260-827-2482 Office >260-307-4000 Cell >260-918-4340 VoIP >www.oibw.net >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Charles Wu >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:53 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: RE: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams >ForFCCPresentation on Thursday > >I agree w/ Alex and will take this one step further > >Mike has a history of "taking undue credit" for other's actions > >At this risk of sounding anti Part-15, in order for WISPA to establish >credibility to its members and the FCC, it needs to be able to stand on >its own 2 feet as a separate organization with SEPARATE REPRESENTATION > >Another fact worth noting is the effectiveness of the WISPA (Dearman >and a group of 20+ volunteers who ACTUALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE) response vs. >Part-15's response. Mac and co have made an IMMEDIATE impact and have >gotten exposure on the national news media, while Part-15's efforts got >bogged down and ultimately ended up getting "lost in the shuffle." > >At this point, it seems to me that Part-15 is trying to "ride WISPA's >coat-tails" > >Personally, I think it would be best for Michael to not try to "take >the spotlight" but step aside and turn the FCC presentation over to >someone who was actually "in the trenches" (e.g., a WISPA >representative or maybe someone from Mac's crew). > >That said, unfortunately, with a new baby due this month, my schedule >has been filled with diaper changing classes and I have been unable to >devote the time/energy that many other volunteers have had; however, I >would like to support this effort (and help establish WISPA's >credibility) by putting $500 up for a WISPA REPRESENTATIVE to travel to >DC to represent WISPA's HURRICANE RELIEF EFFORT in front of the FCC > >Back to diaper changing class... > >-Charles > > > >------------------------------------------- >CWLab >Technology Architects >http://www.cwlab.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of A. Huppenthal >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:58 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need Inputs From Hurricane Relief WISP Teams For >FCCPresentation on Thursday > > >Steve, > > Its great the FCC asked Mike to speak to them. He can only represent >those people and businesses that establish him as their representative. >I have Scriv, Marlon and Rick as well as other WISPA members who >represent my interests. I'm curious to understanding what Mike wants to >speak about as well as seeing whatever materials he's producing for his >5 minute talk. If he'd like to represent me, I'd like to better >understand what his platform is, motivation, interests, previous >qualifications, and so on. This looks like a nice opportunity and if >Marlon could go along and speak for me, that would be great. I know >Marlon, and unfortunately, I don't know Mike, except as a leader of a >for-profit organization which uses FCC part15 as its main interest. > > Congratulations to Mike and his company for getting FCC attention. Its >great PR for his company. Whatever he can do to convey that WISPs need >more spectrum, better anti-trust legislation that is to say - some >policing of mega-business policies and better co-ordination among BLM >and FS with WISPs would be wonderful. If he would add his support for >WISPA and suggest that the FCC should support WISPA's non-profit effort >to create a forum for Part15 associated issues and interests would be >greatly appreciated by me. > > It would be wonderful to see additional FCC interaction with the WISPA >organization and its membership. Perhaps he could suggest a periodic >meeting between the FCC and WISPA membership? > > Thanks for the good news that the FCC is paying attention to >Independents and their representatives. I hope he invites Marlon or at >least mentions that Marlon and WISPA exist and are making good progress. > > Cheers, > AH > > >Steve Stroh wrote: > > > >>All: >> >>Michael, as usual, has understated this a bit a bit, so I'll step into >>the role of blatant Public Relations once more. >> >>There's a detailed explanation at >>http://www.part-15.org/emergencyrelief/fcc.html. >> >>Here's the terse version. Michael Anderson, Chairman of PART-15.ORG >>was asked to speak at the upcoming FCC Open Commission Meeting on >>Thursday morning. >> >>His speaking slot is 5 minutes. >> >>It's short in time, but a lot of content can be crammed into it, >>considering that he can breeze through the PowerPoint slides, talk >>fast, and people can look at the replay and the PowerPoint slides in >>detail later. >> >>He needs the inputs soon; Monday's gone already. That basically gives >>him Tuesday to put an short, effective, "punchy" presentation >>together. He flies from Chicago to DC on Wednesday. The more diverse >>input he gets, the sooner, the better and more representative the >>presentation can be. >> >>It SEEMS likely (we don't know for sure) that this meeting will have >>lots of press attending, since it's requested that all the entities >>under FCC jurisdiction (telephone, cable, broadcasting, public safety >>comms, etc.) do the same sort of presentation. So... we want the WISP >>industry to be WELL represented, and it will be with YOUR inputs. >> >>To be clear... CRYSTAL clear... Michael was NOT asked to speak to >>represent just PART-15.ORG. He was asked to speak to represent the >>WISP industry as a whole. >> >>Michael would like your input. The web page above has some suggestions >>for interesting input to Michael. >> >>The form found, linked at the bottom of the web page, (at >>http://www.part-15.org/emergencyrelief/report.asp if you'd prefer to >>skip reading the long, wordy web page) has additional suggestions on >>what to mention. >> >>Photos would be great; again, more info at the two URLs. >> >>Please - take some time out of your activities to provide your inputs. >> >> >>Thanks, >> >>Steve >> >> >> >> >>Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> >>>From: "Bullit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Date: September 12, 2005 18:44:38 PDT >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Subject: [Emergency-Relief] P15 UPDATE - IMMEDIATE RESPONSE REQUESTED >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>http://www.part-15.org/emergencyrelief/fcc.html >>> >>>Thank you >>>Michael >>> >>> >>> >>--- >> >>Steve Stroh >>425-939-0076 | Skype: stevestroh2 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >>http://www.stevestroh.com >> >> >> > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
