Since 1997 when we rolled out the first "broadband" in the area, I've been saying we'd eventually bill by the bit. I actually did so in 1999 using an Alot box but only for the bandwidth hogs. I still say it will be mainstream one day. In fact, I can see the bandwidth costing more depending on the type & QOS. How about video costing more than VOIP, etc? It makes too much sense and it's just a matter of time.
On 11/7/05, Charles Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <snip> > So Charles, start yourself a "usage based only" operation and let us > know how that works out for you. > </snip> > > Lol... > > We all are already - only difference today b/n the ISP & the other 3 > operations is the fact that the ISP today obfiscates their "usage billing" > in legalese buried deep within the fine print of a contract > > -Charles > > ------------------------------------------- > CWLab > Technology Architects > http://www.cwlab.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Scrivner > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:00 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge > > > Scriv > > > Charles Wu wrote: > > >Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis > > > >Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any > >different? > > > >-Charles > > > >------------------------------------------- > >CWLab > >Technology Architects > >http://www.cwlab.com > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >Behalf Of John Scrivner > >Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:01 AM > >To: WISPA General List > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge > > > > > >I can see it now. We will soon be charging for termination and > >origination of IP traffic on networks. Just like long distance phone > >calls used to be. Yay....kill me now. > >Scriv > > > > > >Frank Muto wrote: > > > > > > > >>Just passing on some information that may be of interest to anyone. > >>Entitlement vs. laws, and a company's TOS/AUP I'm sure are all involved > >>in one form or another, as with anything else concerning the use of a > >>network to access the Internet or other service. > >> > >>As far as I am concerned, this whole Internet and who controls (owns) > >>it, is just getting dumber and dumber by the minute. Congress, the FCC, > >>state and local governments, special interest groups, the Bell's, > >>xLEC's etc, etc, etc., can all suck eggs. > >> > >> > >> > >>Frank > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Frank, > >>>I have a problem with the second item listed on the challenge myself. > >>>It > >>>states: > >>> > >>>2) Consumers are entitled to run applications and services of their > >>>choice, subject to the needs of law enforcement > >>><http://www.cybertelecom.org/security/Calea.htm>; > >>> > >>>I do not allow my broadband subscribers to use their connection for > >>>applications or services which act as a server or daemon for > >>>delivering content to others. Broadband networks are not designed to > >>>be content delivery networks from the customer end generally. In the > >>>case of wireless broadband access, customers can cause network > >>>problems if they allow thousands of open ports to a popular file > >>>download. I have seen this many times and I have provisions in my AUP > >>>which allow me to turn customers off who cause network problems from > >>>trying to use broadband as a content delivery mechanism. I welcome > >>>other thoughts but I believe we need to have the ability to stop > >>>abuses of a network which can cause us problems. With that said I > >>>agree that there needs to be some commitment from operators to allow > >>>access to their networks for free and open competition. I just do not > >>>agree that there can be no limits to what we can or cannot allow on > >>>the network. Especially when some things can harm network > >>>functionality. John Scrivner > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- -RickG
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