Personally, I'm not sure whats wrong with selling broadband at a flat rate, and then have an add on option for people who want to pay per bit, to actually get the throughput they need above the misrepresented commodity marketing speeds. Someone agrees to be an average, and takes the slow down when they aren't or they agree to pay. Thats why we bandwdith manage by priority. Give em the speed if its available, slow everyone down equally.

Only problem is people then think you are purposely slowing them down to force em to a pay per bit, after the fact.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge


Hi,

The water at my home is not billed on usage, but a flat rate each month. It's a community system with about 300 homes. Even water inside city limits of a town with 50,000 population is not billed on usage, but a flat rate.

Also, another difference between electricity, water, etc. vs. Internet is that water and electricity only flows into the property.... with Internet traffic, it goes both ways. ;)

Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Here here! That's why we've ALWAYS been honest with our customers. We bill per bit not per mbps. Go as fast as your situation will allow but don't get stupid with the connection.

It's worked out so nicely that we're running 300ish broadband customers, 50 of them on 100 meg fiber links (80/20 res/bus or so). Our billing averages under 1.5 megs of average usage for ALL customers throughout the month. (I pay bw based on usage.)

laters,
Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Weasler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge


A modern marketing mistake created this mess.  A company started to
sell a product that it was incapable of delivering: unlimited network
access.  Other companies followed suit and assumed that they would
never be compelled to make good on their promise.  Now, instead of
admitting that they were wrong, most providers are trying to redefine
the word 'unlimited' through legal documents that attempt to restrict
their customers' actions.

A far better approach would be to determine what their network can
handle and charge appropriately for the usage of their customers.  If
their network can't provide the customer-demanded services at a fair
price, then they need to update their network, reduce their costs, or
leave the market.  It really can be that simple.

Regulations in this type of system are only necessary to ensure that
providers are disclosing the information necessary for consumers to
choose amongst the competitors.  Micro-managing the various services
running on top of the network only causes the services to route around
the complexity of the regulations and adds unnecessary expense for the
consumers and a barrier to entry for future competitors.

Jeff Pulver wrote a very interesting blog entry on Friday about the
issue of bit-pipes vs. artificially-restricted communications pipes.
It seems that Congress might be more informed than the FCC on this
issue.  Time will tell:
http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/003274.html

- Tony

On 11/7/2005 1:51 PM, Charles Wu created:

Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis

Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any different?

-Charles

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