Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-) |
I found a VAR to work with.
Prices for canopy 900.
All details are being posted to "Principal Members List".
You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage of the offer.
I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the VAR.
Pay up to WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think you could use a month (you won't be committed to this, it's just for a general idea)
Ron Wallace wrote:
Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some money, good.Ron Wallace ---- Original message ----Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500 From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA General List <email@example.com> I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible,butprolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to moto website and look up resellers. fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say "look here. I have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to 10 credit cards and shippedto10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward quote to nextresellerand go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If they want thebusinessof the buying group, they better figure out how to cut a deal. Am I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all the resellers say screw you if I approached like this? If all resellers say we can't do this.....then I would (big trusthere)run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump sum and re shipfromhere. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more for extra shipping....don't know what that would be, but it would be figured before hand. I just made all that up, but it seems like it would work. Onlyquestionis how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who bought the radio. Someone let me know if my approach is out of line. Never done thisandmight be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls) Brian A. Huppenthal wrote:Charles, I know you don't support the idea of group buys. Enough said. FactisI've done group buys with high-end equipment before - it wasn't difficult at all. If you are comparing a public distributor to a closed membership buying club, you aren't comparing apples toapples.I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor organization. However, as our discussion continues, I might be willing to sendJim,George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600 for 10 Canopy SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined up. I don't needsupport,training, stocking, any of the services that distributors offer. Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting me to sell direct to customers. You have your pros and cons for going to distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's being discussed here isn't pretending to create a distributor that has *everything*.. Frankly I think the board with the exception of myself, uniformly doesn't support group buys. The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose of the buy, itendswhen the product is delivered. Charles Wu wrote:<snip> You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club. </snip> We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an APandgetting a T1 line Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally attest to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your proposing) than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buyinggroupfaces? For starters, there's the question of payment -- given thatthebuying group has no / limited credit, chances are that any vendorwillrequire cash up front for the purchase So, for example, say Motorola Canopy is the product WISPA chooses Then WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ $100k to purchasethat 500pack (at say, $200 / unit for simplicity's sake) Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a warehouse to store stuff Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a shipper/logistics guy to repackage / ship stuff On top of that, chances are, 50% of the WISPs who committed to purchasing the packs will renege and/or delay their deliveries due tounforseenthings that always happen in deployments (e.g., lightning, customersdon'tsign on, interference from competitor, DSL coming to town) So now, WISPA / Buying Group needs to hire a sales guy to sellexcessunits Now, you've added overhead (and you need to add an administrativefee /margin to compensate) In the meantime, either 1. Motorola to announce a 50% price reduction in their Canopy line, and all WISPA members now wanting the new lower price (therefore causing ahugeloss) 2. Trango (or some other company) to come out w/ the new "flavor ofthemonth" and no one wanting the inventory anymore, sticking WISPA w/$100kworth of boat anchors -Charles ------------------------------------------- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com-- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 "Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: firstname.lastname@example.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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