Your problem could well be multipath.  Canopy can be picky in that even with 
good signal if either end is suffering a high reflectivity environment 
(multiple paths entering the antenna) you can forget it ... no link.

Your problem might be that that you're using an omni on your AP.  An omni 
has no rejection of reflected signals coming in from other directions.  You 
say its 200 ft up, but are there tall buildings around?  The path between 
the SM and AP might be clear, but if there's a reflective object behind thte 
AP or to one side it could cause no link because the Canopy AP is on an 
omni.  Canopy can only use an omni in a reflectivity free environment.  This 
is pretty much a Canopy specific limitation.  Canopy's designed for 
directive antennas on both sides to shield out reflections.  Use of an omni 
is limited to only suitable environments.

On the SM side, it could be a strong ground reflection.  While you're 
obviously pointing your SM yagi directly back at the AP, have you tried 
tilting it up vertically (point above the AP, not directly at it).  If you 
get linked by pointing the SM above the AP you might be fighting a strong 
ground reflection near the SM.  If you're fighting signal quality 
degradation from a couple trees on the SM side, try moving around.

Rich

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone in the NJ area that knows Canopy ?


Oh yeah... Been through 4 SM's and even an AP that I converted to a SM...

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone in the NJ area that knows Canopy ?

That should be working.  I know of several people doing this without a hitch 
on 900.  You definately have an issue (unless you have
a different deffinition of sapling than I have!  :-)

I assume you already swapped subscribers???





Rick Smith wrote:

>For ?   Going to Moto ?  Beginning to believe that...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
>Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:04 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone in the NJ area that knows Canopy ?
>
>Serve's ya right!  :-P
>
>-B-
>
>Rick Smith wrote:
>
>
>
>>Wanna have lunch ?  I'll take ya on a tour of my network.
>>
>>I'd like to have someone else come take a look at the stuff I'm pullin my 
>>hair out on with Canopy.
>>
>>All I get from Tech Support is "We don't support NLOS at 8 miles"
>>
>>WELLL...  I can SEE the tower... I've got 99% LOS.... No connection...
>>
>>
>>For these lists, A little history:
>>
>>I've got a tower in northern NJ, canopy AP / omni installed at top, 200'. 
>>Nothing obstructing.  Running on 918mhz.   Veritcal
omni
>>
>>
>from pac wireless - od9-11.
>
>
>>Pretty clear survey (very little noise)
>>
>>At 8 miles out, is my father's house, and a tower we're renting space on 
>>soon. (Big ole AT&T monster).
>>
>>I cannot, for the LIFE of me, get a successful connection to either of 
>>those places, with a canopy SM and 15dbi yagi.   Very
little
>>
>>
>noise at the SM end, as well.
>
>
>>I've been around and around with canopy techs, and all they keep claiming 
>>is "Oh, this is near / non line of sight ?   Forget it.
>>
>>
>We're not allowed to waste our time on that because it's not supported"
>
>
>>I've been a long time Trango user, and a connection like this in Trango 
>>experience is a SLAM dunk.    When saying that to canopy
>>
>>
>techs, I get "we're not allowed to comment on third party gear" and I
>reply "I'm not asking you to, I'm asking you to explain why CANOPY gear 
>sucks this bad!"  hehe.
>
>
>>Is trango just that much better at dealing with fresnel incursion, or 
>>trees, or whatever ?   When canopy techs are asked why I
>>
>>
>can't get a connection at 8 miles through 2 saplings, they say because
>NLOS situations are test and see situations.  Some will work and some 
>won't.  OK, I can see that... But which WILL if these don't?
>
>
>>Anyhow, just wonderin if there's someone with canopy experience in my area 
>>that I could buy lunch / dinner...
>>
>>R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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