That is not at all the case for 70 Ghz.
The default Gigabeam antenna size for long range is approx 2 feet. (you can
get 1-7 miles on that, more likely 1-2 miles for most rainfall areas for
5-9s).
Gigabeam also now has a small footprint 12" round antenna model now, for
1/2 - 1 mile links which delivers 5-9s.
With 60-70 Ghz spectrum long distances is very hard to acheive, so it is a
technology designed for short distances in general. But in Urban and
suburban enviroments 1-2 miles is not out of the realms of possibilities.
You might be in a different situation in Peurto Rico, in a tropical area
that has much higher rain fall than in my mid-eastern state. My responses
had not been considering geographic locations, as some location will have to
much rain fall for the UWB to be usable.
The bigger issue is that the technology is PtP today. And it will never be a
PtMP product as typical in today's cell technology. The beam is to narrow.
Exact precise alignment, and rock solid poles that won't sway are required
for the technology. So it is a PTP technology. But I see lots of
advancements that could happen down the road. What if they made a smart
phased array type antenna that could work at those spectrum ranges? What
could the technology do, if it was deployed for lower bandwidth
applications, using less complex modulations and shorter channels? For
example, what if they made a Phased array antenna that had 100 different
antennas built into it, one degree appart, and used a seperate channel for
each one, and sliced the large GBps spectrum range down to many small 20mbps
channels? Does it exist today, NO. But it could as technology develops.
If we look at Gigabeams technogy, the approach they use is they take the
entire spectrum range to offer the Link, that way they can use a less
efficient modulation that is more survivable to gain the GB capacity.
Because the beam is so narrow and short range, they can reuse channels
several times from the same roof, and easilly not interfere with links on
the building down the street. There is a reason its called a pencil beam :-)
Many things can be done to lower costs. For example what if they make a PtMP
product that is really just several radio systems combined in a single case,
which only allow 2 or 3 end points to connect. Sharing the case, mainboard,
and mounts will save significantly. The cost of GB equipment today is
controlled by market worth and intellectual property value, not actually
cost to replicate and manufacture. They ahve to keep it high per unit now,
because they want providers to buy one per site. But when they start making
dual radio models, it allows them to lower the price based on one unit still
being used per site. For example, they could use the mentality, taht to
deploy &) Ghz you need reliabilty and a Bus or ring topology, and include it
free, setting the price based on what they value of 1 GB will be to the
tenants within the tenant building served with it.
Evolution does not happen over night. But the good news is that Evolution in
the wired industry does not happen over night either. 10 years to deploy DSL
and cable broadband to 70% of the nation, when the cables already existed.
FIOS may be in your neighborhood, but its not going to be for everyone over
night, that is a fact. The evolution of GB wireless could take 10 years, or
maybe it will be two years. But if the market provides the demand, it will
excellerate the rate at which evolution occurs. I'm not saying build your
business model today on GB wireless, that would be insaine. But it very well
may be a large part of the solution to combat Fiber, as Fiber evolves.
Right now I get $500 a month fiber only in some remote areas. The day I can
get FIOS on every corner, the market value of GB wireless will no longer be
the same, and prive will drop. Provided the owners of the technology don't
fall into the trap of a Vivato, and overprice their gear for to long, and
miss the market, and not realize it until its to late.
What I suggest to everyone, expecially if in a FIOS market, is to entertain
how you could deploy GB wireless if the price point was right. What sites
would you use to create 1-2 mile links, if you had to. Be prepared to work
it into your model. ITs not going to work for small ISPs in rural america
at first, as the INternet transit would be way to costly for GB access. But
for Urban areas its another story. All our remote fiber links do Transport
only, and terminate at our central Transir location, with the exception of
our backup redundant transit link. This allows us to use economy of scale to
get low cost Transit. We can upgrade only our main transit to GB fiber at
first, and start building out GB wireless. And then when we have to we'll
start lighting up 100 mbps fiber transports, and upgrade them to GB when
revenue is there to pay for it. The point is, we should all be thinking of
how we can evolve and scale our own networks, as we grow and market
competition grows. Its possible Wireless may only be a transition product
for us, if GB wireless does not evolve adequately. I learned last ISPCON how
fiber for the tripple play could be deployed to every home in rural america
for the same upfront cash as I built my wireless network on, based on per
subscriber. Of course financed out 20 years and needed upfront apposed to no
financing (cash) and pay as I go of my wireless business. Will GB wireless
ever offer that Fiber value proposition? Who knows? But I think its worth
following, because its possible it could, and personally, I'd rather have a
business based on 0-5 year financing instead of 20 years. A lot can happen
in 20 years. GB wireless offers the potential for shorter duration financing
and pay as you build for many applications. We may find that a combination
of all technologies need to be offered, to reach the customer cost
effectively, and ahve a profitable business model. For example, maybe we
install Fiber to the Home for new construction and our local communities.
And then we deploy GB wireless for the backbones that can easilly be
installed to telephone poles or roof tops every 1-2 miles, more cost
effectively than digging up the streets and getting the permits to do so.
.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "G.Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really
need)
Tom,
How do you think 70 ghz gear will cost pennies and help us? For a 1 mile
ptp
link you need 4 ft dishes on each end, I cant imagine this working for us
in
ptp or ptmp ...
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.aeronetpr.com
787.767.7466
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really
need)
Bob made a good point regarding contracts.
Use the you can serve them today, to your advantage, and lock them in.
Charge install fees because you can, so yoour gear is paid for by the time
FIOS does come, and you are in the position to be your most competitive.
My view is that it is a time stall situation. Wireless gear is evolving.
Its
jsut a matter of time before 70 Ghz GB gear can be had for pennies. Maybe
not this year, but sooner or later it will. When FIOS is a real threat to
Wireless, thats when the GB wireless manufacturers will start to lower
their
prices, because it is what they'll need to do to sell gear.
Make sure your antenna colocation agreements on every sub's building
allows
for a second antenna, so when you can afford to go GB broadband, you can
do
so without delay from landlords.
Verizon has been advertising FIOS hard in our markets to, but its been
over
6 month for some, since advertsied and no FIOS. FIOS is expensive to
buildout, and they need a certain number of pre-signed up subscribers to
do
it. Its hard to convince people to get rif of their satelite and cabled
TV.
There is security in not being locked down to a signle provider for ALL
services. I can see it now, someone gets behind on their phone bill, and
all
a sudden the TV gets turned off, the broadband gets turned off, and the
PHONE.
IF you wait until FIOS is installed and then try to compete you won't be
able to. The goal is to scoop up the clients before its available.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really
need)
Right. Unless there's a technology upgrade soon in the 2 / 5 gig areas,
we're going to
need something else to compete...
I have a 20 meg feed right now, and it's about 1.5 meg average... But to
no customers can
I deliver more than 10 meg to without a fortune in hardware
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:43 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really
need)
I can get a 100Mbps or 200Mbps feed today at very good pricing (what I
would pay for a T1 5 years ago :-)) but the problem I see it
is delivering 15+Mbps in a PtMP setup
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:28 PM
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really need)
And that's why having them sealed into a contract like Bob believes in
protects you :)
Won't be long before YOU can get that feed (maybe from another ISP) as
well and start feeding it into wireless shtuff
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:21 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they
really need)
I agree, most sub's use about 1Mbps to 2Mbps if they very active
downloading content (ftp, streaming, and some p2p) (I limit p2p on my
system but allow some
bursts) other traffic is not limited
But when trying to sell a customer will go and say hey I can get
15Mbps from verizon for $50 and only XX from you
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:15 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they
> really need)
>
> Seriously, how much does a sub use anyway? If you keep control over
> p2p, how much are they really going to take anyway? Anyone got
> numbers?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Although the service is not available yet in my area, it is getting
> >close and reports are it could be available in 2006 - check out
> >this pricing - the
> 15Mbps
> >for $49.95 a month seems like a really good deal and would be tough
> >to beat, currently I am using Nstream/MT which gives me about
> >20Mbps to the customer
> >
> >Up to 5 Mbps/2 Mbps $34.95 - $39.95
> >Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps $44.95 - $49.95
> >Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps $179.95 - $199.95
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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