Hello,

There was some open-source work done that allowed generic 802.11 clients to
roam around on a wireless network without breaking
stateful/session-orientated connections.  It was called Transparent
Mobility, and there is code available on the SF site below.  I believe it
was actually put into practice at SOWN, but there doesn't appear to have
been any additional recent activity on the project.  Nonetheless it was an
interesting way to solve the problem of not having built-in roaming
capabilities in 802.11.  The description:

---
About Transparent Mobile IP
   
This project aims to provide IP mobility across multiple networks, ensuring
that all active TCP sessions will be maintained upon migration. No client
side software or alteration to IP stack is required. The network itself
changes to provide connectivity. 
---

http://www.slyware.com/projects_tmip.shtml
http://www.sown.org.uk/index.php/TransparentMobility
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tmip


At 03:32 PM 12/28/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Matt,
>
>Great point, that many forget.
>
>For the record, there were several unlicensed products that ahve been 
>marketed to mobility, such as Alvarion 900Mhz. Does Alvarion 900 mobile 
>product llow subscribers to maintain state, when switching APs?  My 
>understanding is that a vehichle in motion (at not to high a speed) could 
>successfully use the service, however, it would infact be a dirty 
>copnnection break when switching APs, meaning lossing connection with one, 
>and then searching for the second after connection lsot to first.  Is that 
>correct, Alvarion people?
>
>Tom DeReggi
>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:52 AM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing
>
>
>> FYI, when I visited the FCC, they were very specific that Wi-Fi cannot 
>> roam. Wi-Fi users can be nomadic in that as they move from AP to AP the 
>> client is disconnected and then reconnected. True roaming involves 
>> handoffs from node to node like on a cell network. Specifically, a cell 
>> phone actually makes a new connection and initiates the handoff. Wi-Fi 
>> clients are rather dumb and don't have this ability. The difference is 
>> related to maintaining state on any network connections, which is 
>> especially important for VoIP and VPN.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>No, we don't use WIFI, it is strictly a fixed wireless network at this 
>>>point
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>>>Behalf
>>>>Of John Thomas
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:37 PM
>>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing
>>>>
>>>>Is your wireless network set up to allow roaming? You can't roam with
>>>>fiber....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ah but what about the new customer  who is comparing FIOS to what I 
>>>>>offer?
>>>>>
>>>>FIOS
>>>>
>>>>>will have tv and voip ( we do voip now but no tv )
>>>>>
>>>>>Times are a changing and verizon is putting flyers on everything around
>>>>>
>>>>boston,
>>>>
>>>>>ma to promote FIOS, like pizza box's, dry cleaning slips etc
>>>>>
>>>>>Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>>
>>>>Behalf
>>>>
>>>>>>Of Bob Moldashel
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:15 PM
>>>>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It is reasons like this that I am a firm believer in contracts!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-B-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Although the service is not available yet in my area, it is getting 
>>>>>>>close
>>>>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>>>reports are it could be available in 2006 - check out this pricing - 
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>15Mbps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>for $49.95 a month seems like a really good deal and would be tough to
>>>>>>>
>>>>beat,
>>>>
>>>>>>>currently I am using Nstream/MT which gives me about 20Mbps to the 
>>>>>>>customer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Up to 5 Mbps/2 Mbps  $34.95 - $39.95
>>>>>>>Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps $44.95 - $49.95
>>>>>>>Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps $179.95 - $199.95
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Bob Moldashel
>>>>>>Lakeland Communications, Inc.
>>>>>>Broadband Deployment Group
>>>>>>1350 Lincoln Avenue
>>>>>>Holbrook, New York 11741 USA
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