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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: 17 January 2006 18:08
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radios on Single antenna
I'm not saying there isn;t a benefit now and then sharing a Dual pol
antenna
between two freqs, otherwise nobody would make them. BUt....
We have found most tower agreements also, have restrictions in the
agreement
that disallow using multiple radios our spectrum ranges on the antennas
without paying for that as a second antenna, even though taking up only
one
antenna position.
We found that its just as easy to sneak/put up a second antenna, without
managers knowledge as it is to put up a dual freq antenna without them
knowing. So normally you gotta pay regardless, if you do it honestly. It
becomes an issue of wether you are honest about what you put up, versus
sneaking up extra options without paying. Wether its spectrum or
antennas
is irrelevant. Most tower owners don't audit their sides regularly
because
its jsut to expensive and even if they do, the auditors often are over
worked, and don't always check thouroughly what they are required to
supposed to check. Most colocators also aren't short on antenna space, so
they are really charging you based on the value you are receiving being
there, not really the actually antenna space. Although special cases do
apply such as with windload requirement of over weighted towers or towers
like clock tower that have a limited number of window openings for the
antennas.
I also find saving money isn't that much of a savings because the antenna
makers then also charge more for the dual pol antennas to counter most of
your planned savings.
However, saving on time, clearly is an option, with only one antenna to
carry and bolt up. However you may run into issues, where the alignment
of
the antennas may need to be varied to get optimal signal based on wether
you
are aligning for 5.8 or 2.4. So because we like to engineer for OPTIMAL
signal, apposed to compromised mostly best signal, we prefer to use
seperate
antennas.
As a disclaimer: We pay for all our colocated antennas at our cell sites,
and we do that because we honor our tower relationships, and have
negotiated
good terms, and do not want to abuse the trust they have in us, so we
maintain good relations. I mention sneaking up antennas only because,
every
once in a while, we may have sneaked up an antenna to do the inital
testing
(which often requires it left there for a few days), so that we can avoid
the lengthly antenna request process and timely paper work until after we
are certain that the link is doable and tested. We justify sneaking the
antenna up, because not only are we saving us time, we also are saving the
management a lot of time, preventing the need to do paperwork
unnecessarilly, if we are unsuccessful in pulling off the link we
engineered. I do not advise attempting to pull one over on Management
companies. If the Management company does not care what spectrum gets
used,
and charging just for the antenna space, the more power to you for being
smarter.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Chadd Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Multiple Radios on Single antenna
Who sells dual band antennas? That could save some money on tower space
and
simplify some installations.
Thanks,
Chadd
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radios on Single antenna
. However, I am aware of many successfuly
using 2.4 and 5.8 from the same antenna.
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