<snip>
Maybe you stumbled upon the fact that no one offers what you want 
because it isn't cost effective to do so. As much as we try to wholesale 
our VoIP offers to other WISPs, they want their cake and eat it too. 
Being an ISP or for that matter a VoIP provider requires either relying 
on others' infrastructure, making thin margins, and making it up in 
volume or building out your own infrastructure and making great margins. 
There really is no in-between.
</snip>

I know a lot of people out there who are willing to pay $30+ / month for a
VoIP handset (in fact, my office has 40 handsets, and we still pay an
outsourced VoIP provider $30 / month FOR EVERY SINGLE HANDSET -- then we get
charged per minute local / long-distance rates)

Another example

A good friend of mine runs a colocation company in the Equinix IBX -- he
charges $50 / month per U of rack space
IBM, in a cage less than 50' away from him, charges $1k / month per U for
rack space

IBM has more colo'd servers than my friend

Maybe you just aren't selling properly?

-Charles

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WiNOG Austin, TX
March 13-15, 2006
http://www.winog.com 



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services
--SomeObservations


Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

>I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's 
>move from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable
for me
>to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
>system for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced 
>"wholesale" programs.
>
>  
>


-Matt

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