For someone like me who is currently looking at getting into the VoIP
business, why is it that you feel VoIP will be a long-term loser? I have
just started my research into what it will take to provide this so I'm a
little behind on it, but I'm definately interested in all opinions and
options.
Thanks!
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From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Primus/Lingo is calling every WISP in the country trying to sign them up
for a very CommPartners like deal. All of these VoIP providers are using
the same shitty model that will be worthless in 2 years time. There is no
money to be made in VoIP short-term unless you operate your own equipment.
Long-term, there is no money to be made in VoIP at all. VoIP will soon be
a loss leader; plan for it or do get into the VoIP business.
BTW, Primus makes all their money on international termination. The
domestic stuff is losing money hand over fist.
-Matt
John Scrivner wrote:
Primus tells me they are more than a VOIP company and that they do make
money. They impressed me in my dealings with them. Can you share more
about your information about Primus? I have a big interest in knowing
anything I can about them right now.
Thanks,
Scriv
Peter R. wrote:
You haven't seen it yet, because Lingo is not profitable yet.
Primus owns Lingo and Primus is basically an International VOIP company.
Like so many VOIP Providers, they are still trying to figure out how to
make a profit.
Delta3 (which is the backend for VZ's VoiceWing) made $9.1M in revenue
in 4Q05 and just $22k in income.
Vonage has a customer acquisition cost that is 20 times their MRC.
Regards,
Peter
Jonathan Schmidt wrote:
I've been personally delighted with two years of Lingo giving me
unlimited USA/Canada/EUROPE calling on 7 lines each for $19.95/month
and an unusually rich set of features (like e-mailing me compressed WAV
files of all incoming voicemails, etc.).
Now, that's retail w/box and support.
I've taken the box on trips and routed it through my laptop Ethernet
while
the laptop is on a V.32 dialup and it works but sounds kind of like a
cell
phone but having my local number with me in Europe and having unlimited
free calls throughout Europe from Europe or Eastern Europe for ZERO
additional cost is kinda cool.
It's SIP but they keep promising a soft phone for the line, like
Vonaga, but
haven't seen it yet.
. . . j o n a t h a n
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