RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:47:02 -0700

I use a lot of different hardware from Trango, Karlnet, Proxim, and mikrotik…  polling systems generally perform better than non-polling – gps sync may scale even better

 

When I first used the trango 900 series I liked having the  simple design and very easy install unlike karlnet…. But I have had issues w/ firmware,  all my AP’s randomly reboot as well as su’s.

 

The RB532/MT setup works (the MMCX on the SR5 and SR2 is nice, never reboots … great throughput – however  “some assembly is required” – but it only takes a few minutes to screw the board into the enclosure, the ECS-RJ-45 from pacwireless makes a nice external rj45 jack and connect the pigtail  then add antenna

 

Having the 2nd antenna port on the rb532 could be very beneficial although I generally like my PTP Links to be on separate hardware than my PTMP, but I do have some 5.8ghz PTP links into a dual rb532, 2nd port is SR2 for wifi

 

I know that trango is running MT on some of the “hd mesh” dardware, looks like it could even be the rb532 board (not sure) –

 

 

Dan Metcalf
Wireless Broadband Systems
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

 

Dan,

We had this discussion a few weeks ago, although it may have been on another wireless list.

What processor and setup are you using to get 30Mbps? The fastest I have seen with routerboard 532's in a p2p config is 20Mbps of TCP traffic passing thru the RB's. Do you have outdoor enclosures?

Travis
Microserv

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I believe that the atheros chipset is capped at 35Mbps, although users of MT have claimed higher using very fast cpu’s. 

 

I have several atheros/MT/nstream links (PTP and PTMP) that push 30Mbps…. Pretty impressive throughput, plus adjustable channels, plus QoS for VoIP and all the other features available make a nice system

 

 

Dan Metcalf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

 

Hi,

Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum?

Travis
Microserv

Paul Hendry wrote: 

All the details are on the Valemount web site
 
http://www.staros.com/starvx/ 
 
Cheers,
 
P.
 
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Sent: 11 April 2006 09:15
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
 
So... Who makes them?, how much?
 
 
  


Hi Richard,
 
 This cloaking mechanism is the 5MHz and 10MHz channel sizes that
George was referring to on the Star WAR boards. Works really well and even
seems to improve signal quality.
 
Cheers,
 
P.
 
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Sent: 11 April 2006 08:09
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
 
 
 
 
Guys;
These all sound great.  I was reading just a couple months back about a 
WISP
 
operator that had a severe problem.  Just a few yards away, maybe 300 feet,
another guy put up his tower.  I think they were both on 2.4 GHZ, and
someone suggested a different AP that would not even be detected by
conventional systems.  Something about nonstandard bandwidth, channel
spacing or coding.  I really feel that stealth is best here.  These other
guys have been in business for a while and could cause trouble that I do 
not
 
need.
 
Lee
    



Trango does make a good product. I still have 2 Sunstream AP's in use. 
      



They
 
    



are like Timex watches.
 
I'm using Star War boards. A little bit more than the trango s. The 2 
      



card
    



boards in a 5 gig rootenna let me use the 2nd card for an omni.
Speeds are about 20+ megs or so and I cloak down to 5MHz and 10MHz 
      



channel
    



sizes.
 
One of the things I've been doing is slapping up repeaters all over the
place. Cheap as hell, about 400.00 or so.
 
Lately I've ran lmr400 into some of my customers attics and installed an
omni for their home wifi. We tend to service our customers right to the 
      



pc
    



and it's a lot better router than a linksys. And I have happier customers
and I'm happier.
 
The 2 port and the 4 port both have dual ethernet as well.
 
Pretty versatile product. Lonnie has come along way with the new war
platform.
 
 
George
 
 
 
 
 
Travis Johnson wrote:
      



That's on quantity 30.... $149 each. 5.8ghz, dual polarity, up to 3 
        






miles
    






(add $40 for a dish and it goes up to 13 miles) and delivers up to 
        






10Mbps.
 
    






Hard to beat! And with SmartPolling on the AP, you can get hundreds of
customers per sector.
 
Travis
Microserv
 
Rick Smith wrote:
 
        



that's only quantity (large!) pricing isn't it ?
 
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 
          



If it's pretty absent of trees you might look at 5.8.  Trango has that
cpe for $150.  Not going to find any propriety gear cheaper.
 
Richard Goodin wrote:
 
            



I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to begin
delivery of bandwidth to customers. My choice for service delivery 
              















was
    















802.11b, but with increased competition from other services nearby
(about 5 miles away) I am wondering how to avoid problems.  I have a
50' tower, and it is ROHN 45g.  My choice for antennas would be 4 90
degree horizontal antennas.  I have looked at bandwidth and shopped 
              















it
    















to death.  My best price is $400 from Lime Light.  And I've built a
couple of servers, acquired some switches and a router.  The Router 
              















is
    















a Cisco 1750.
 
My questions:
 
What CPE's and AP's would work best in this environment?  I want to
keep interferance to a minimum, as well as control costs.  My
environment includes lots of desert, and single story buildings.
 
Lee
 
 
              












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