Hello,

Maybe my math is off this morning, for lack of coffee but
2286 Kbit does not equal 22000 Kbit       (2.286 Mbit does not equal 22 Mega bit.)
which is what I thought I saw at first glance.

So if that was KBYTE (which I think it is) instead of Kbit (Kb vs KB)
2286 KBYTE x 8 = 18288 (18.288 Mega Bit)

Which is certainly impressive considering the fact that its 10 radios away, and 8 hops as the traceroute shows!  

But it is Still a bit above half  the 30 or 35 Mbit you were previously quoting.

-Michael


Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
It is TCP.  We do not use UDP since it gives a reading that will never
be seen by a customer doing an FTP download.  We are looking at
building in iperf so we should be able to do tcp or udp tests in
future.

I have a network from Valemount, BC to McBride, BC that has about 100
km of repeater distances.  The shot is split in half with mountain
shots at each (43 km each) and about 5 km from each mountain top to
the POP in each town.  We can pull over 20 mbps from POP to POP.  It
is 8 hops and goes through 10 radios.  I have pasted a speed test from
the POP in Valemount to the POP in McBride.  Both are Linux systems
with 1 GHz or better processors that we use for firewall and bandwidth
control.  Also I have the traceroute to show the hops.

lon-home:~/staros # starutil-1.14 10.10.29.1 password -rx
rx rate: 2286 KB/sec  (Press Ctrl-C to exit)
lon-home:~/staros #

lon-home:~/staros # traceroute 10.10.29.1
traceroute to 10.10.29.1 (10.10.29.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.250.10  0.430 ms   0.401 ms   0.496 ms
 2  10.10.48.254  1.655 ms   1.447 ms   1.185 ms
 3  10.10.227.254  2.686 ms   1.965 ms   5.428 ms
 4  10.10.12.4  5.469 ms   3.250 ms   4.501 ms
 5  10.10.47.253  4.946 ms   4.415 ms   3.581 ms
 6  10.10.51.254  6.077 ms   6.472 ms   8.063 ms
 7  10.14.99.254  12.615 ms *   5.777 ms
 8  10.10.29.1  6.569 ms   7.295 ms   7.686 ms
lon-home:~/staros #

Lonnie

On 4/11/06, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
 Lonnie,

 Is that TCP or UDP?

 Travis
 Microserv


 Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
 Using the 533 MHz IXP-420 we can get an Atheros to just over 35 mbps
of non compressible data and almost 90 mbps of compressible data.

Lonnie

On 4/11/06, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Dan,

 We had this discussion a few weeks ago, although it may have been on
another wireless list.

 What processor and setup are you using to get 30Mbps? The fastest I have
seen with routerboard 532's in a p2p config is 20Mbps of TCP traffic passing
thru the RB's. Do you have outdoor enclosures?

 Travis
 Microserv


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I believe that the atheros chipset is capped at 35Mbps, although users of MT
have claimed higher using very fast cpu's.



I have several atheros/MT/nstream links (PTP and PTMP) that push 30Mbps….
Pretty impressive throughput, plus adjustable channels, plus QoS for VoIP
and all the other features available make a nice system






Dan Metcalf
 Wireless Broadband Systems
 www.wbisp.com
 781-566-2053 ext 6201

1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 support: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis
Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP



Hi,

 Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards
in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum?

 Travis
 Microserv

 Paul Hendry wrote: All the details are on the Valemount web site

 http://www.staros.com/starvx/

 Cheers,

 P.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
 Behalf Of Richard Goodin
 Sent: 11 April 2006 09:15
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

 So... Who makes them?, how much?




 Hi Richard,

 This cloaking mechanism is the 5MHz and 10MHz channel sizes that
 George was referring to on the Star WAR boards. Works really well and even
 seems to improve signal quality.

 Cheers,

 P.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
 Behalf Of Richard Goodin
 Sent: 11 April 2006 08:09
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP




 Guys;
 These all sound great. I was reading just a couple months back about a
 WISP

 operator that had a severe problem. Just a few yards away, maybe 300 feet,
 another guy put up his tower. I think they were both on 2.4 GHZ, and
 someone suggested a different AP that would not even be detected by
 conventional systems. Something about nonstandard bandwidth, channel
 spacing or coding. I really feel that stealth is best here. These other
 guys have been in business for a while and could cause trouble that I do
 not

 need.

 Lee


 Trango does make a good product. I still have 2 Sunstream AP's in use.

 They



 are like Timex watches.

 I'm using Star War boards. A little bit more than the trango s. The 2

 card


 boards in a 5 gig rootenna let me use the 2nd card for an omni.
 Speeds are about 20+ megs or so and I cloak down to 5MHz and 10MHz

 channel


 sizes.

 One of the things I've been doing is slapping up repeaters all over the
 place. Cheap as hell, about 400.00 or so.

 Lately I've ran lmr400 into some of my customers attics and installed an
 omni for their home wifi. We tend to service our customers right to the

 pc


 and it's a lot better router than a linksys. And I have happier customers
 and I'm happier.

 The 2 port and the 4 port both have dual ethernet as well.

 Pretty versatile product. Lonnie has come along way with the new war
 platform.


 George





 Travis Johnson wrote:


 That's on quantity 30.... $149 each. 5.8ghz, dual polarity, up to 3

 miles



 (add $40 for a dish and it goes up to 13 miles) and delivers up to

 10Mbps.




 Hard to beat! And with SmartPolling on the AP, you can get hundreds of
 customers per sector.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Rick Smith wrote:



 that's only quantity (large!) pricing isn't it ?

 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:



 If it's pretty absent of trees you might look at 5.8. Trango has that
 cpe for $150. Not going to find any propriety gear cheaper.

 Richard Goodin wrote:



 I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to begin
 delivery of bandwidth to customers. My choice for service delivery

 was






 802.11b, but with increased competition from other services nearby
 (about 5 miles away) I am wondering how to avoid problems. I have a
 50' tower, and it is ROHN 45g. My choice for antennas would be 4 90
 degree horizontal antennas. I have looked at bandwidth and shopped

 it






 to death. My best price is $400 from Lime Light. And I've built a
 couple of servers, acquired some switches and a router. The Router

 is






 a Cisco 1750.

 My questions:

 What CPE's and AP's would work best in this environment? I want to
 keep interferance to a minimum, as well as control costs. My
 environment includes lots of desert, and single story buildings.

 Lee



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