Tom DeReggi wrote:
When someone sells 1 mbps of speed, who said that meant they are
selling the customer continuous 1 mbps for what ever use they want?
And just because we sell them a 1 mbps last mile, who says that we are
selling them that capacity accross our backbone network?
You may oversubscribe your customers; not every ISP does. However, that
is irrelevant. If the customer is buying an oversubscribed link then the
customer must accept that certain types of content may not work very
well. That is the customer's choice.
Sounds like legislators or reading maketing advertisements instead of
acceptable use policies and fine print of broadband contracts.
What makes you come to that conclusion?
When I sell 1 mbps to a resident, I in no way represent I am selling
the subscriber 1 mbps of capacity. I'm selling him that speed. There
is a nig difference. If they want that guaranteed capacity, they can
buy it from me per bit, or pay for a CIR plan that guarantees that
And if the customer buys a CIR plan then they can use their connection
for whatever content they want right? So, where is your argument against
my earlier email?
VOIP providers most likely won't share my view, as they want a free
ride. However, I beleive VOIP providers would not be harmfully
effected by this, as all it would mean is that they must make
partnerships with ISPs. There are 7000 ISPs out there ready to accept
partnerships. Whats wrong with that. UNfortuneately, the idea that a
VOIP content provider should ahve free reign to sell to anyone, such
as through best Buy and Circuit cities, regardless of which ISP used,
is a flawed model for competition. The reason is that the most popular
and largest VOIP providers will be the one that gets the deal with
Circuit Cities and Best Buys, and the industry will get lopsided,
almost like a market driven self created monopoly. Forcing VOIP
providers to make deals with ISPs, will create the opportunity for
more different VOIP providers to be successfull and have a peice of
the pie. It will also guaranteee that consumers can't as easilly be
blindsided by misrepresenting marketing material. It will guarantee
that VOIP has a better chance to survuve will good QOS because
attention will be given by the broadband provider to make sure it is
I disagree it is a flawed model. We have customers that buy VoIP from us
and others that buy VoIP from companies like Vonage. Our VoIP is much
higher quality, but for customers that buy Vonage they accept the
service for what it is. We don't lower the priority of Vonage traffic;
we don't have to. Our VoIP service will always better if for no other
reason than it doesn't rely on internet transit. Core internet routers
are designed to move as much traffic as fast as possible. Sometimes this
means queing of traffic to obtain maximum throughput, while at the same
time raising latency. That is a good thing for core routers, but a bad
thing for real-time traffic like VoIP.
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