Actually whn it is worse is...

Call your neighbor's POTs line, using a VOIP termiantion server across the US.

VOIP to VOIP across US no problem.
VOIP across US to POTs no problem.
VOIP across US, VOIP back across the US to neighbor no problem.
VOIP across US, terminate, back across US telco to neighbors POTS- quality very tough to guarantee.

So the challenge in offering VOIP is NOT long distance quality, its LOCAL call quality.

The only way to solve it is to have local gateways as well as remote gateways, and intelligent call routing.
The more national gateways someone has the better.
The idea being, to have the shortest path from VOIP gateway to recipient, and shortest path to caller from gateway, and everything in the middle gets managed by the VOIP provider to make sure they control and deliver quality.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

You may have the very best VoIP system with the least latency, highest call quality, etc.... but it still is not the same as a POTS line.

The real test is when you call someone from a VoIP line to a cell phone... that's when you get echo, delay and noise to the point that you end up talking over each other, etc. I have been on the cell phone end of MANY calls like this, from MANY different companies around the US. Every single one of them was using VoIP (from many different providers). Having a "shared" pipe (VoIP) will just never be the same as a "dedicated" pipe (POTS). :)

Granted, VoIP may be good enough for 99% of the people, but personally I guess I fall into the 1%. ;)


Matt Liotta wrote:

On Jun 19, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

I don't believe there is any real money in it either... cell phones will be the choice 5-10 years from now. VoIP is the bridge to get there. Of course, I'm talking residential users... business users are a little different... although we will never switch our business lines (12 of them) to VoIP. I've never heard a VoIP call that sounded as good as a POTS line... :)

Call us then. Or better yet, send us a fax, which is the real test of VoIP quality. VoIP will never be circuit switched, but it is good enough to the point that without testing equipment an end user can't tell the difference. Except of course the reduction in cost and the increase in functionality afforded by VoIP.


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