----- Original Message ----- From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Replies below: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:I'm not nearly as impressed with this as you are John.I never described this with the word impressed. I am never impressed that easily! :-)Money to study the issue AND a task force? To study an issue that the senator has already laid out? That the fcc's broadband task force AND spectrum policy force have studied to death? bull.....I think part of this is to help the Connect SI initiative in Durbin's district of which I am a supporting member. It is a group dedicated to analyzing the availability of broadband, developing plans to build more broadband availability, build a common peering facility in the region and ways to use it to positively impact the economy in Southern Illinois. Sadly the WISPs walked out before anyone even had a chance to see what was on the table. This is a good deal for us if people just try. That is too much to ask many WISPs though it seems. I am the only WISP in the group. I am also the only small company who would donate time and money to the effort. If people want to see the government do positive things then they have to be part of the effort. Telling the government to buzz off does not work.
Yeah, you are correct there. I'm headed to the http://www.communitiesconnect.org/ meetings next week. It's a waste of time as it's all aimed at orgs that already get most or all of their money from the public troth. But I'll be there (only two of us wisps at the last one) anyway. Maybe I can either learn something or contribute a dose of reality. I agree, we've burried our heads in the sand for too long. I have NO desire to see the broadband industry follow the dialup model. Not the way that there's ended up being no way for the average dialup isp to upgrade to a good broadband program.....
It's an election year scam.Nice of you to sum up the hundreds of hours I have committed to state level broadband initiatives as an election year scam. If this goes the way I want then my service area will be color coded by signal availability down to the quarter-section level on the plat book and I will have access to every state and federal program for broadband available. I do not lobby for programs to be created but I do tell the politicians what I need to bring broadband to rural areas when they ask e and a good part of what Durbin is stating has to do with things me and others have asked him to do to help.
As I said below, I could be wrong about the program. But look where the TV band issue has ended up. Worse yet, USF.
It's about money and publicity John. PLEASE, let Durbin and anyone that supports his ideas prove me wrong! I'd be happy to be proven a fool on this one. Big time.
In the mean time, I'll help where I can, put in my $.25 worth and do all I can. But I'll not bet my familie's future on it. Not in a million years. Not when I have no power and no money and no people in my coverage zones. No one cares about us any more than it takes to use us to push through a program that helps the incombants.
In a way, it's expected. You and I go to our friends first when looking for help in solving a problem right? It's human nature. It's just very frustrating to not be one of the friends :-).
Naturally, the devil is always in the details. I'm REALLY against the study crap, it's totally redundant. But the grants and auction reform may be nice. Have to see what they really put together.In case you do not remember t has been me for a long time saying that too much money is going to loans and not enough to grants. This is being addressed here unless he drops the ball.
I saw that. It's certainly a step in the right direction. USF would have been, by far, the best way to cover this. If I got the same subsidy rate that century tel gets already I would have nearly $30,000 more MONTHLY income than I have today. And it wouldn't cost the government anymore debt. And with that much more money coming in every month I'd find a way to put service out to anyone that wanted it. I'd be able to cover 100% of my areas. And I'd be able to do it with a top notch network. I could hire some help and that would be good for the local ecconomies too.
Oh well, maybe next time.
I had such high hopes for USF reform, but that's not only not gotten better, it's gonna be worse for us. And it looks like the TV band issue is either dead of wrapped up in junk that'll make it worthless too.What is your source of information on the TV bands? I have not received a single negative message in regard to the TV reform issues. If you want some USF funds then signup and get a SPIN number. Ask your local school to help you. They can set you up in about an hour. You can collect some USF now.
What I want is what century tel gets. They get over 50% (I think the number was around 70%) from usf funds! How'd you like to more than double your current take per customer? Could you do more things for more people? More than the telco is doing? That means that out here the telco gets $160 or so for every broadband res. customer! Even though the customer only pays $25 for a phone line and $30 for dsl. Marlon, the local entrepenure gets $35 per sub, the telco gets $160 for LESS service. Great system eh?
The local school doesn't do anything with us. I take that back, the new bus super had them put in our wireless instead of dsl so he could keep an eye on the weather and such down at the garage. Other than that, they've never spent one red cent with me. Not when I did copier repair or anything. Even after the school board directed them to always shop local first.
They buy from the eduacation services disctrict. They keep the money in the school system. They support their own.
I could probably force the issue. But why would I want to? I have a GREAT customer base. Many of them work at the school. I know how much work it takes to maintain a school network and how much BW they can suck up.
I've been meaning to get info on how much money they spend on internet, phones, networking services etc. Guess I'll go get that data before school starts. We'll see if it's even worth pushing them on the idea that I can service them better than anyone else has.
ScrivIt always seems to go back to the government supporting the people that live off of it first and those of us that feed it last.Getting cynical in my old age. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 22.214.171.124 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <firstname.lastname@example.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Frannie Wellings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:50 PMSubject: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of what I have been saying. Scriv *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS * Friday, August 4, 2006 [WASHINGTON, DC] – U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet service, especially in rural areas. “Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses need traditional utility services,” said Durbin. “Yet, for too many people living in small communities today, broadband access is still not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no service available to them right now. My bill will change that.” Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture – found that rural and farm households have access to broadband internet at approximately half the level of all U.S. households nationwide. Another respected research organization, the Pew Internet and American Life Project, found similar results. In its 2006 report, Pew found that only 18% of rural adults reported a home broadband connection, compared to 31% of urban adults. All of these studies point to a consistent conclusion: Americans living in urban areas are almost twice as likely to have home broadband access as do their rural counterparts. Durbin said broadband is critical to community and economic development, as it encourages investment, creates jobs, improves productivity, fosters innovation, and increases consumer benefits in every corner of our nation. A recent study found that adoption of current generation broadband would increase the gross domestic product by $179.7 billion, while adding approximately 61,000 jobs per year over the two decades. The study also projected 1.2 million jobs could be created if next generation broadband technology were rapidly deployed. “We need to close the digital divide, ensuring that rural Americans are not left behind in the 21st Century’s digital economy,” Durbin noted. “Whether it is through telephone wire, cable, fiber, satellite, wireless or any other medium, we need every existing and future broadband service provider to step up to the national challenge.” Durbin said his bill includes four major provisions. Each is designed to focus on identifying obstacles that hinder broadband deployment in ruralAmerica today, and to find innovative solutions to address those concerns.Creates Broadband Trust Fund: creates a new federal program specifically targeted at assisting individuals, businesses and co-ops working at the earliest stages to bring broadband to their communities. Eligible entities include nonprofits, academic institutions, local governments and commercial companies that work to identify broadband access needs in unserved areas of the country. Projects to be funded through this new program will include feasibility studies, mapping, economic analysis, and other activities done to determine the reasons for the current lack of service, and the scale, scope, and type of broadband services most suitable for the particular unserved area. Reforms USDA Rural Broadband Program: the current USDA broadband loan program provides below-market rate loans and loan guarantees for the construction and improvement of broadband facilities and equipment in rural areas. This program expires in 2007. Durbin’s bill does three things with regard to the broadband loan program -- extends the life of the program for another five years until 2012; refocuses the program solely on rural areas where it is most needed; and establishes a grant program to be administered by the same USDA office that currently runs the rural broadband loan program. Wireless Broadband Spectrum: requires the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to make new spectrum available for wireless broadband services in rural areas as soon as practicable. The bill also requires the FCC to evaluate its spectrum auction plans and to divide some of the frequency allocations into smaller area licenses so that regional and rural wireless companies can compete in the bidding process. Making additional spectrum available holds tremendous potential for wireless broadband to be deployed in rural areas, especially in large geographic regions where it would be cost prohibitive to build out wires and cable. Creates Broadband Task Force: establishes a task force consisting of experts in federal, state, and local governments, trade associations, public interest organizations, academic institutions, and other areas to study best practices for rapid deployment of broadband services in states, particularly those with large unserved rural areas. The bill requires the task force, within 6 months, to provide to Congress and to each governor a report detailing a comprehensive list of specific measures adopted by state or local governments that helped deploy broadband services in areas that lacked such services. The legislation has been referred to the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: email@example.com Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- WISPA Wireless List: firstname.lastname@example.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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