I'm a big fan of the potential of GB fiber.
But I disagree with your comment.
There is a small percentage of jobs that are worth paying the $40K, and
thats where the vendor makes his sale, today.
But that mentality is holding the industry back. They can make it cheaper
and sell it cheaper if they wanted to.
And quite frankly I can care less about the 1% of the market that they fit
the mold to.
I care about the other 99% of the market, that would allow WISPS to compete
and beat cable and DSL companies to all Americans.
GB is not destined for just a fiber carriers temporary last mile connection.
IT has the potential to be the Fiber replacement altogeather.
Wireless manufacturers that do not see this are blind as a bat. There
product should be priced to sell for ANY application.
Mark my words that GB wireless will not stay at the price its at today for
long. If it does, new vendors will surface to replace the vendors that are
slow to meet the market demand, which is GB everywhere. Thats not going to
happen at $40K a link.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Pommier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment
Tom,
$40K is a lot, true.
But here's what I've heard from fiber providers in my area:
in rural areas and in existing developments it's very expensive to dig,
trench, pull cover, and pay all the other fees fiber providers have.
In these cases, Gbit wireless is a point to point link for the last
mile.
I think that's where the economies of the wireless fiber solution begin
to appeal to them.
Mario
Tom DeReggi wrote:
The second we get 70-80Ghz down under $15,000, it will start to get
interesting.
I've ran into very few places that Fiber can't be run less than 1/2 mile
cheaper than buying GB wireless.
The only real sale strategy for GB at its existing cost, is Speed of
Install. For those who can't afford the 3-6 months to organize getting
their fiber pulled.
Now the second you can Span over 3 mile reliably, which 70-80Ghz can do,
it gets more exciting. But at $40 grand, thats a tough sale, in Tier1
markets.
At $500 a month for fiber, thats a 6 year ROI on the GB wireless gear.
The advantage of Pencil Beam GB products is that a lot of links can be
simultaneously deployed in an area. Making it so expensive takes away
the abilty to use the technology to its potential, and used for the rare
backhaul link.
GB wireless should be being used for mass deployment of PTP in Urban
America. For that, it needs a price point under $10 grand, in my mind.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment
Licensed 70 to 80 GHz actually has less oxygen absorption of the signal
than 60 GHz (by several orders of magnitude). If you are providing a
Service Level Agreement with 5 - 9's or better % uptime then you should
stick with a licensed product IMO. As Matt states below, both companies
offer a licensed product. Depending on the rainfall annually where you
are deploying you may get nearly the same uptime in 60 GHz, especially
since it is just 0.4 miles. I would research before making a choice
though if uptime requirements are strict.
Remember to make sure you research your connection into the network
also. Your point of demarcation will need to be identified. In many
cases it is a port from the switch that you would provide. Make sure you
select a switch compatible with the radio product you launch. If they
provide the switch demarc point then make sure it is on the list of
tested and known good hardware for connecting to the link you setup.
Before quoting the product make sure you remember things like back-up
power, downlead selection, surge and lightning suppression, stand-by
spare radios for replacement, etc. Ask to see the software management
interfaces for the radios being considered. If you buy radios that work
but you cannot diagnose what is wrong when they break then you have a
problem. It is not like you will have a 60 to 90 GHz signal meter or
spectrum analyzer anytime soon so the software management interface is
very important. If you do not address these things now then you will be
sorry later.
If I were you I would at least get a quote or two from fiber
construction companies to see if a fiber could be built for same or less
money. Depending on the location this might be the more efficient
solution.
That is the biggest beef I have with the millimeter-wave crowd right
now. They try to think in terms of how much money they can squeeze out
for each single link sale instead of looking at the mass potential if we
could all get our hands on low-cost Gigabit backhaul to all of our
towers. Ken and I have been beating this into their brains now for a
couple of years. It will sink in someday when they think it is their
idea. :-) jk
Scriv
Matt Liotta wrote:
We deploy BrideWave gear and have been happy with it. BridgeWave also
has a licensed radio operating in the 80Ghz range.
-Matt
Mario Pommier wrote:
This is a new area of wireless deployment for me:
I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a
radiology department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles).
I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered:
-- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000
5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps
-- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes
$1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps
release by Dec. 2006.
I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave.
Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these
companies?
Thanks a lot.
Mario
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