You might want to check with your accountant.  I doubt the IRS is going to let you "contract" with people you also employ.  You may be liable for FICA, etc. for all the installs they have done.

Scott Reed
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration

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From: Pete Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List <>
Sent: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:40:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

> We outsource most of our installs to our employees. The two techs usually go out together, and split the $100. Its not unheard of for my techs to make more money on a busy week than I take in my salary, and I am an owner.
> They make $x/hr to do service calls, uninstalls, AP maintenance, etc and if they can keep those caught up, we schedule an install (usually 1 or 2 /day for 2 techs). They are OFF the clock for installs, and get $100/install. We provide the van, the tools, the gas, the CPE, and all consumables (staples, caulk, cat5, ends, jacks, faceplates, etc). That keeps them from usually turning in overtime. It gives them an incentive for completing installs in a timely manner (2 hr install = $25/hr/tech). Any service calls resulting from a faulty/sloppy install in the first 30 days result in the installer techs going on site to fix it on THEIR time, so they have an incentive to get it done right the first time around.
> We have a few other local IT/phone/security system consultants who will occasionally bring us a customer and offer to install them, since they are an existing consulting customer for them anyway and usually selling them a custom network/phone system/security system/audio system anyway. We will usually give them $125 or $150 and provide the CPE and minimal technical support. They will bring us the contract/customer worksheet for our files, and we don't even have to go on site. Since we usually charge $149 for the setup, we often let the consultant charge whatever he wants, and keep it, and put in as many custom cable runs and terminations as they can sell. We just start picking up the monthly billing.
> Those are good relationships to have.
> Pete Davis
> chris cooper wrote:

> Im sure this has been covered before…..
> Have any of you outsourced installations?  If so, has it been a positive experience, how much do you pay a contractor?
> Thanks
> Chris

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