This happened to us numerous times.  We now tape over the connections-
tape the connectors directly to the boards.  Not a pretty solution but
it works.

chris

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grrrr... pigtails

>T urns out our low loss u.fl to n-female pigtails with the thicker coax
in
>the cold will revert shape and pull themselves off the cramped SR9 /
WAR
>board combination.

Excellent detail to bring up. Sounds like a fastener/tiedown problem to
me.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Grrrr... pigtails


> Thanksgiving day, my son and I put up a future customer's CPE up in
the
> woods.  I mean, up in the mountains, log cabin, beyond phone and
power.
> They have a generator, batteries, solar panels, etc. We did it because

> snow
> was predicted and already a little bit had fallen.   We got it there,
link
> established and was working on aiming the antenna when the laptop ran
out 
> of
> power.   The power plug on the laptop PSU had broken and, well... we
were
> dead.
>
> The people got back a few days later, and by then, yes, quite a bit of

> snow
> had fallen.   When we had the chance to go back and finish ( plug the 
> power
> in inside, hook up thier equipment) we had no signal.
>
> We tried everything we  could think of, short of changing parts,
because 
> we
> didn't take any (wasn't our install rig, just a 4x4 so we could get 
> through
> the deep snow), no signal.
>
> Yesterday, after a few days of warm, we drove in ( this time, install
rig,
> my '89 Caravan ) digging through some deep snow going in the canyon 
> between
> them and the main road.
>
> Eventually, we changed every part, including the WAR board and SR9, no
> signal.   Then, I assembled the WAR we took out and all the parts
changed
> out, and standing there, on the ground...  I had a solid link.
>
> Finally, in pitch black dark, I climbed the ladder, had someone
provide 
> some
> light, and hooked up the SR9 through another pigtail to the
anntenna...
> POOF, signal.
>
> Put the original back on...  Poof, signal.  then, none.   Work  the 
> pigtail
> around so it's not tensioned and in line and put it back on... Poof, 
> signal.
>
> I go inside, log in...and in a minute or so, watch the signal fade to
> nothing.
>
> T urns out our low loss u.fl to n-female pigtails with the thicker
coax in
> the cold will revert shape and pull themselves off the cramped SR9 /
WAR
> board combination.
>
> I found one of the crapola thing things I had rejected for 5 ghz use
and 
> put
> it in place...  Yeah, 1 or 2 db loss in the piggy, but it stayed on...
>
> Anyone make a low loss pigtail that's flexible even in the cold?   I
tried
> two different ones, one pacwireless, one is Roger's, I think.  Neither

> could
> be convinced to retain a new shape in the cold...
>
>
>
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