no, mikrotik in this case, doing a 'scan' on the interface...shows their
ssid's in their trucks...

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Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC type

ad hoc mode?

Rick Smith wrote:
> nod, a scan on the AP shows them...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Ralph
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:23 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC 
> type
> 
> If they still operate as before, you shouldn't see them unless you set 
> your tower as a client/cpe.  I have never seen them do anything with 
> an AP, other than BE one.  Dis you know that was what the SST-PR-1 was
before?
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Rick Smith
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:35 PM
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> Subject: RE: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC 
> type
> 
> yeah I can see 10 - 12 of them at any time off one of my towers.
> I'm 1/2 mile from a sears garage where they repair those vans...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Ralph
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:11 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC type
> 
> Hi Matt-
> 
> Back in my old Net-Stumbler days (back when you could drive across 
> Atlanta and see less than 20 Access Points, and 2 were my own), the
"experimenters"
> of the day became perplexed by this SSID that kept popping up at 
> random times.  It was an Access Point named "SST-PR-1"  The first time 
> I saw it, I was in my basement and I knew full well what I could 
> normally receive down there.
> 
> There were all kinds of theories:  an AP on a low earth orbit 
> satellite, something on a passing vehicle, some sort of temporary SSID on
a piece of
> gear that just showed up right at bootup, etc.   Googling for SST-PR-1
might
> actually turn up some of the old discussions about it.
> 
> Anyway- I started seeing it a lot in the evenings after they built 
> some apartments behind me.  I sent my son over there on his bike with 
> a camera to do some investigating.  He soon found a Sears Service 
> truck (the ones with the small Globalstar dish on top like you see on 
> many semis) parked in front of an apartment.  He went back with a 
> laptop and traced the signal to this van.  So we had it figured out- Sears
truck.
> 
> A few days later, my son saw the driver coming home for the evening 
> and the driver gave him the dog and pony show of the truck computer.  
> It is linked to Sears parts database via satellite. The SST-PR-1 is 
> the SSID of an integral access point that allows the driver to use a 
> laptop from inside the customer's home to check on parts, see service 
> manuals, etc. The SST stands for "Sears Smart Toolbox".
> 
> I once told a friend about it and he set up a laptop to warn him when 
> the Sears guy entered the neighborhood on his way to fix their 
> refrigerator.  An "early warning" system of sorts.
> 
> So, the big SST-PR-1 mystery was finally solved by a 12 year old kid!
> 
> Ralph
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:16 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC
> 
> AHA!!!!
> 
> I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been 
> coming from!!!!!!
> 
> Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication 
> disabled on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up 
> with requests from "TruckPC".  They were coming from access points all
over
> the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 
> radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 
> people, but it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from 
> that AP is always showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops 
> whizzing by looking for an open AP.
> 
> I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so 
> that we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good 
> reason to do it.
> 
> Matt Larsen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Ralph wrote:
>> Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:
>> http://www.drivertech.com/
>>
>> Their product, a "Truckpc" is being installed in many fleet vehicles. 
>> One fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package 
>> hauling
> service
>> http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office via
>> Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  
>> According to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured 
>> access points and do your "HIGHLY illegal" act of connecting and 
>> sending its data whenever it can.
>>
>> I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I wanted to bring it 
>> to the attention of the list.
>>
>> How do I know?   My WISP operates hotspot portals that allow casual users
> to
>> make use of our mountain and tower-top sectors of WiFi.  These cover 
>> major portions of several towns.  These towns have a major Interstate 
>> route passing through them.  I began noticing numerous TRUCKPC leases 
>> being granted by the DHCP servers in these towns.  I became concerned 
>> about what they were, so I did a little internet research and ended 
>> up on the phone with technical support at Drivertech. This is who 
>> confirmed how these devices operate and who the probable fleet 
>> culprit
> was.
>> If anyone has portals near major truck routes, check your DHCP logs 
>> and see if you see the TRUCKPC SSID grabbing leases. You may want to 
>> either block it or contact these folks and work out a "roaming
agreement".
>>
>>
>>
>> Serious part over, joke follows:
>>
>> This message brought to you by the World's largest free wireless 
>> internet provider. Look for our SSID wherever you go: Linksys.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of JohnnyO
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:35 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio 
>> for802.11b/g
>>
>> Brian - Ham Operator or not - do you realize that what you're 
>> planning on doing is HIGHLY illegal and has several people over the 
>> past 2 yrs in Federal Prison as we speak ?
>>
>>   
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