The biggest problem I have with thesedeals are...

What are the ramifications if a company doesn;t deliver?
They may promise a CPE with every deal, but what if the investors chage their mind because they aren;t getting the pay back to jsutify giving the CPE after significant trials? What value get puts on the damages that the Provider is responsible for, when not delivering what they promised? Losse the contract? So what, who'd care if it wasnlt working? Or Who would let the contract terminate, if forcing them out would result in some customers losing existing service, and a long time before a new option installed in town? The bottom line is, once some subs are up on the network, the provider has control, because the public (that can be served) interests must be looked after alsol Thats the disadvantage of Monopoly agreements. They are uninforceable. And the only thing it solves, is removes enforcabilty, in the provider's favor.

I just talked to a relative of mine, who's city is looking to do a small town Muni Wifi project. They may give exclusivity to the equipment on the poles installed by the provider, and non-interference clauses, but they are not planning on giving exclusivity to the poles themselves. They are leaving options for a second provider to get involved if they want. If the first provider does a good job, no one would deploy in duplicate, it would be pointless for the small town. But that possibilty keeps the first provider honest and trying their best.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimo Crossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <>; "'Ralph'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:23 AM
Subject: [WISPA] SF Earthlink Study

(thank you for your insightful input Ralph)

Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:40:53 -0500
From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Numbering my responses to Kimo's questions:

1. Right now, a handful of cities (I think they are the 3 Metro-Fi cities in
Silicon Valley, plus Mtn View) are getting 1Mb. This is totally dependent of
the depth of the pockets of Metro-Fi's backers and on the advertising
revenues.  Ever play with a puppy in a pet store? They are so cute, you just
have to take it home.  If the business model doesn't pay out i.e.: They
don't get enough paying subscribers or they don't get the revenue from the
ads, then you will see it change. Not saying that was Metricom's demise, but
they had few users and any Metro network takes gobs of money to build out.
I've seen it first hand... With this model and with the equipment that will
be used in SF. It ain't free and it ain't cheap!

I agree with you- I think Metro-Fi's model still has yet to be proved a success. On the other hand ATT is doing Portland Oregon with them so there may be more developing on this.

2. So Seattle will have it in 10 years.  By then, there will be something
bigger and better. Will the SF residents have to wait 10 years too?  Not
something I'd be willing to do- especially when I was faced with a proposal
from someone who will do it for free and assume all the risk.  What has SF
got to lose?

The EarthLink deal doesn't compare favorably with what other cities are getting - Why should SF settle? Sf already has more hotspots than any other city in the nation. It is not hard to find a free hotspot currently. SF shouldn't lock itself in to what is effectively a 16 year monopoly deal with tech that is already dated.

3.  Milpitas, CA.  No tall residential buildings (but some are under
construction.  A 24-30 ft high access point with the relatively low gain of
the Tropos antennas will have a good amount of upward radiation.  It isn't
that much better of an antenna than a dipole would be.  It certainly has
little, if any, directional abilities.  It may not go up into a 30 story
hotel or apartment house, but how many residence in SF are in those?  That
can easily be the 5 or 10 % allowed not to be covered.  Most of my friends
in SF live in 2-4 story abodes.  According to the web page, the CPE is given
with a paid connection anyway, so there's no-one not getting one except for
the people taking the freebie.  Even if I chose to live in a place that
required use of a CPE, it is no different than buying an XM receiver to
listen to XM, or buying a transistor radio or boom box to listen to free

Hmm ok, well there are more and more tall residential buildings in SF and isn't anything over 2 stories already above the 40 ft coverage that EarthLink is agreeing too? Are you suggesting (I hope it's true) that a CPE solves all indoor and above 40 ft issues? I thought it was of limited value?

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