I understand and agree, but that's all the more reason why WISPs need to
police themselves because the public impression and liabilities are
there just as well.

Sometimes I wonder if the FCC is not content to let WISPs sort of stay
partially self-destructing. It gives them and the major operators an ace
in the hole against WISPs if and when they need it.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV white spaces

Yeah, for sure.

However, the FCC must take some credit for that problem Patrick.  How
many 
times have you been told that operator a has turned in operator b for an

illegal network and never heard a peep out of the FCC?

laters,
Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] TV white spaces


I hope it does go UL, but I have also heard some recent rumblings that
the FCC is concerned with what seems like a widespread deterioration of
WISPs following the rules. The phrase I recall is something along the
lines of "Damn it, these things are not guidelines."

>From my view it is true. I see it in conversations that go beyond the
usual, "if you just stay within the power no one cares" to now where
people seem to via the STA process as a round-about tool to get access
to and use spectrum that does not commercially exist.

Letting loose the same level of abuse in the TV bands is something that
will cause real problems for the FCC should broadcasters be affected.

The WISP industry must do a better job of policing itself and
discouraging the slippery slope.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV white spaces

Steve,

I appreciate your insight into the possibility that license-exempt white

space use might actually materialize. I very much hope that it does.

jack


Steve Stroh wrote:
>
> Jack:
>
> Consider...
>
> To the television broadcasters, WISPs using this spectrum in a "we'll

> stay out of the way of any television broadcasting activity" manner
is
> the lesser of several other evils; television broadcasting has  been
> steadily losing ground now; first 800 MHz was carved out of  Channels
> 70-83, and now the 700 MHz bands are being carved out of  Channels
> 52-69. The trend is clear, and while it's one thing for  powerful
> terrestrial broadcasting to "share" spectrum with low-power
> license-exempt usage, it's quite another for communications use to do

> the same. If the broadcasters play things right (and it appears they
> are "bending" towards white space license-exempt usage, but very much

> on THEIR terms...) the license-exempt usage of television white space

> may serve to "pollute" the remaining television broadcast spectrum
> sufficiently to prevent future reallocation (for at least another
> decade or so).
>
> Intel, Microsoft, Cisco are some of the names being bandied about as
> advocates for license-exempt use of white space television broadcast
> spectrum.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2007, at Jan 24  09:21 AM, Jack Unger wrote:
>
>> Likelihood of unlicensed???
>>
>> My guess is that the established communications carriers and the
>> broadcasters will fight the concept of license-free use of this
>> space. I expect it will come down to who lobbies Congress most
>> effectively.
>>
>> -- 
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>> Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993
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>
>
> ---
>
> Steve Stroh
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>
>
>
>

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