I still talk with Doug Harmon and Kevin Knuth once in awhile on IM.  Doug is
working on a municipal wireless project in Dublin, Ohio.  Kevin is working
for Maplenet with the RBak product.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:20 PM
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Subject: Re: old WLAN history, was RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless...

The "second" Doug was Doug Harmon (or Harman).

jack


Jeff Broadwick wrote:

> I don't know about the 2nd Doug, but their main sales guy, Kevin Knuth, is
> still in Fort Wayne, IN.
> 
> Jeff
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Patrick Leary
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:56 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: RE: old WLAN history, was RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless...
> 
> :) Yep. WaveAccess was from Lucent and had the same roots (literally,
> through LANair) as BreezeCOM. Lucent discontinued it when they moved to
> DSSS, which was better for wireless LAN, at least in terms of what was
> allowed per the FCC rules (wide band hopping was never permitted so
hoppers
> were hogtied to lower bandwidth...it was eventually permitted, but only at
> very low power, useless for all our market).
> 
> And yes, the two Dougs of KarlNet. Doug Karl, as frustrating as all that
> was, did do okay in the end but he was hosed (in my opinion) by YDI.
> 
> Patrick 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:41 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: old WLAN history, was RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless...
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> I remember a lot of that transition well.  Our first wireless gear in
> 1997
> was WaveAccess.  I have no idea what ever happened to them but I remember
it
> was FHSS.  We put an AP in our office attic and served up the local
library
> and several businesses around our building.  The library and several of
> those businesses are still customers today!  
> 
> Ahh and you forgot about Doug Karl's Karlnet, based on a
> Lucent/Orinoco/Agere platform.  Sold to YDI, then Terabeam then was
> essentially EOL'd when Proxim bought Terabeam.  It seems like all those
> transactions transpired in about 18 months. Talk about torture for Karlnet
> customers! 
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Rick Harnish
> President
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> 260-827-2482
> Founding Member of WISPA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Patrick Leary
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:25 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: old WLAN history, was RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless...
> 
> Well, for sure this industry never stands still does it Steve? As one fond
> of change, that one of the things I most enjoy. I knew from people there
> that V-com has become Vecima (much better 'new millienium' type name), but
I
> did not know they absorbed Wave/Waverider. Did Charles
> (Brown) join Vecima too?
> 
> Years ago when the Cirronet folks were creating their company out of their
> successful industrial wireless space, I sat down with of the principals.
> They really thought they had the secret sauce. I was very cautionary,
trying
> to impart how challenging the market was/(is!). They had a hard and not
> especially gratifying few years.
> 
> I forgot about Arraycom sold off iBurst. Sigh. It made me "remember how
much
> I have forgotten" about lost companies in this business. Remember ioSpan?
> How about Beamreach? Remember they even had a successful Verizon trial
fours
> years ago.
> 
> And then how about all the companies bought, collapsed into and morphed
over
> the years? Someday we should build a full "BWIA family tree" of sorts. Fun
> examples (I might be a little off [is that Fruedian?]) just from perhaps
the
> 4 original wireless LAN pioneers:
> 
> Glenair spun off Western Multiplex>WMUX buys the original WLAN pioneer
> Proxim and keeps Proxim name> Proxim buys Farallon and Proxim buys
> Agere>Proxim sold in bankruptcy to YDI who had recently "bought"
> Terabeam>YDI/Terabeam dba Proxim
> 
> And within that story is Agere: Lannet spins off>LANair pieces become part
> of Lucent's original pioneering WLAN group>Lucent spins out Agere which
> comes out with Orinoco which ends up at Proxim...
> 
> And fewer would know the others with ties from LANair formed original WLAN
> pioneer BreezeCOM, which later merged with Floware to became Alvarion in
> 2001...
> 
> How many remember that Telxon created original WLAN pioneer Aironet which
> was bought by Cisco.
> 
> And all that is one tiny fraction of all that has taken place and does not
> even cover the rise of the UL BWA application itself where we were also a
> principal pioneer on the product side (but we were only smartly following
> the lead of the original WISPs, most who were using our gear that
pre-dated
> DSSS) as the others stayed in WLAN.
> 
> I wonder what the next 12 years will bring?
> 
> 
> Patrick Leary
> AVP WISP Markets
> Alvarion, Inc.
> o: 650.314.2628
> c: 760.580.0080
> Vonage: 650.641.1243
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Steve Stroh
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:40 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list
> 
> 
> Patrick:
> 
> Thanks for the inputs.
> 
> FreeWave and MDS were added from a previous reply.
> 
> Lightpointe typo corrected.
> 
> Wave Wireless / Waverider was sold to Vecima Networks.
> 
> ZTE added.
> 
> Huawei added.
> 
> Almost couldn't find any references to Acton; it's actually Accton, now
> added.
> 
> Added AWB.
> 
> Cirronet still lists their Broadband Wireless gear.
> 
> As far as I can tell, Qualcomm doesn't actually make gear - the only thing
> they manufacture is chipsets and lawsuits.
> 
> Arraycomm is also out of the equipment business - only intellectual
property
> and IntelliCell. iBurst was spun off to Kyocera.
> 
> Good point on Terabeam; it was deleted and Proxim added.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2007, at Feb 15  07:17 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
> 
> 
>>Steve, here are a few off my head that are not there...Freewave, MDS, 
>>Lightpointe is with an "e" on the end, Wave Wireless (formerly 
>>Waverider, etc.), ZTE (ZiMAX), Huwaie, Acton Wireless Broadband (AWB), 
>>is Cirronet still around?, Qualcomm (with their MediaFLO), Arraycom, 
>>Terabeam actually dba's as Proxim.
>>
>>P.S. - thanks for only including legal vendors
>>
>>Patrick Leary
>>AVP WISP Markets
>>Alvarion, Inc.
>>o: 650.314.2628
>>c: 760.580.0080
>>Vonage: 650.641.1243
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
> 
> 
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> 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Writing about BWIA again! - www.bwianews.com
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