On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:02:09 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Steve Stroh wrote:
> 
> As odd as it may sound, I am in agreement with Mark on this one. 
> Mark went into detail about how it can (and should) be accomplished. 
> For example:

As much as we've had our differences and sniped at each other, thanks.  Oh, 
and I regret now my acid comments your way at times.  I misjudged you.  If 
you can look past our disagreements, so can I.  My apologies.

> 
> 
> >Um, the FCC is getting innovation and advancement - look at 
> >Clearwire. When there weren't Clearwire, NextWave, Sprint Nextel 
> >and AT&T actively deploying Broadband Wireless Internet Access, the 
> >FCC needed WISPs. Now they've got those big players starting to 
> >deploy and they can point to them as a success story for Broadband 
> >Wireless Internet Access.
> 
> This is somewhat telling, huh?
> 
> As a WISP consultant, I can tell you that I am fully aware of 
> SEVERAL WISPs that are operating illegally.  MOST of them are 
> operating within the parameters of the legal EIRP, but with 
> non-certified combinations of radio systems.  I do tell those that 
> don't know that they are operating illegally.  The fact is, the FCC 
> wants innovation?  They have it with WISPs.  They really need to 
> work on a means to allow us (as WISPs) to operate legally, but not 
> dramatically limit our choices.  Allow us to provide reliable 
> service, within the limits of the EIRP, radiation patterns and such. 
> Allow us to make decisions on the combination of gear we use based 
> on the coverage we need, so long as we don't go outside these 
> limitations.  I just don't see what's so wrong with this kind of 
> request (beyond the current legal status).

I detest Mikrotik in use... and I have no intention of having another MT vs 
Star-OS Jihad, but in this regard, if it were not for MT and Star-OS and a 
few others out there who were ALL "Small guys" there would ahve been almost 
NO "innovation" from the  big guys.  

Like it or not, the "try stuff" and "think outside the box" types have solely 
been responsible for the advancement of this industry, in my view.  EVERY ONE 
OF THEM has been "illegal" in some fashion, because there simply is no 
provision to innovate using commodity equipment within Part 15.  

Unlike Steve's characterization of "slapping equipment together", the 
suggestion and procedure I detailed is all about doing things RIGHT, and 
following time honored and entirely legitemate means of BEING COMPLIANT with 
standards and rules, and all we're asking here is to change the law to allow 
standards compliant devices to be legal in the letter of the law.  If this 
industry is going to move forward, and if the FCC REALLY intends 
compliance... There is ONLY one means of accomplishing this,and it's 
something like what Butch and I  detailed.  

If we have to wait for Trango or Alvarion, or Motorola to crawl along, this 
industry dies, because the "new stuff every 6 months or less" will stop 
happening, and our "innovation" will be as slow and ponderous and timid as 
Cellular and POTS services.  

Not because the companies are necessarily slow, but they don't 'throw stuff 
up and try it",  and cannot.   They spend a LOT to get certified and in 
production, and it takes us WISP's about 24 hours to start telling them what 
we think of it.  "missing this, that doesn't work, why can't you...blah 
blah".  

Funny, HAM radio operators CAN build whatever they want out of whatever, and 
try it, for instance, in the 2.4 gig band.  Oddly enough, they're lagging 
behind individual WISP's in knowledge, understanding, and practical 
applications.  

May I make a modest proposal, that the new 3.65-3.7ghz band have this type of 
equipment certification..and when it's available, the number of products that 
can be affordably deployed with rival that of unlicensed within 18 months.  
Man, anything but the status quo.  


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