We use an Allot bandwidth manager that sits between the customer and our
last router. I was mentioning that we limit our basic family plan to 75
connections and our family power plan to 100 connections.

Marty 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing

Marty,
How are you limiting the number of connections to your customer? Sorry if
you have answered previously. I am a bit lost in all the posts lately.
Thanks,
Scriv

Marty Dougherty wrote:

>In general we only limit the connections for residential and the lowest 
>end business packages- The higher end packages have no limits although 
>we will usually restrict peer to peer unless the business customers 
>asks us not too..
>
>This has proved to be a very effective tool for those residential 
>customers who set up a office at home/barn and then start hiring people.
>They can start with a residential package but will need to upgrade if 
>they want to have employees on the connection. It also allows us to 
>handle the "1 man" offices in a commercial building- We will sometimes 
>allow a residential package in that case and don't have to worry they 
>will share it with others.
>
>Marty
>
>__________________________________________
>
>Marty Dougherty
>
>CEO
>
>Roadstar Internet Inc
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>703-623-4542 (Cell)
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>703-554-6620 (office)
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:03 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
>
>Marty,
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>>consider limiting the number of simultaneous connections-
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>
>Excellent idea, for residential. Have you played with that practice for 
>Business subscribers?
>If so, what works appropriatly for business?
>
>Tom DeReggi
>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Marty Dougherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:16 PM
>Subject: RE: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
>
>
>  
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>>You could also consider limiting the number of simultaneous
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>connections-
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>>We limit our residential plans to 75 (Family basic) and 100 (family
>>Power) simultaneous connections. If they share the connections or have 
>>many computers they will max out real quick. The numbers have been 
>>tested (75 and 100) over the past few years and cover 99% of our 
>>residential user's just fine.
>>
>>This also helps with peer to peer traffic as well.
>>
>>We use Allot bandwidth managers but most of the standards traffic 
>>managers can do it.
>>
>>Marty
>>
>>__________________________________________
>>
>>Marty Dougherty
>>
>>CEO
>>
>>Roadstar Internet Inc
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>703-623-4542 (Cell)
>>
>>703-554-6620 (office)
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>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On
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>>Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
>>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:03 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
>>
>>Yes, but how do you explain what 5G/month is to the average sub??
>>They worry because they don't see this with the 'big boys' that 
>>advertize & don't sevre their area.  Do you find it takes alot more 
>>selling/education for each sub?
>>
>>On 2/17/07, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>I tell my residential subs that we don't care if they have a hundred
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>>PCs. We
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>>>don't have a cap on bandwidth that is available, but we do tell them
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>>that
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>>>with each subscription is included 5gigs of data transfer per month.
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>>We sale
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>>>bandwidth for a living and it is metered just like electricity and
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>>water.
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>>>Help yourself to all you want, but it is not a free for all or a
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>>buffet
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>>>where you can eat all you want for the low low price of $8.99.
>>>
>>>I realize I will probably get a scalding rebuke over my 5gigs, but I
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>>don't
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>>>have copper in the ground or FTTH to allow a Hogs feast on my
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>>bandwidth. I
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>>>run a very successful WIRELESS ISP and the BH pipes and APs are all
>>>      
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>>limited
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>>>in the amount of data they can carry. That is not my fault, but it is
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>>my
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>>>problem and that is how I deal with it! I never have a complaint and
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>I
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>>sell
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>>>a fantastic service.
>>>
>>>Mac Dearman
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>On
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>>>Behalf Of Mark Nash
>>>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:08 PM
>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
>>>
>>>We just tell them that the fact that they have more computers will 
>>>inevitably increase the expected bandwidth usage.  We're flexible on
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>>it.
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>>>Essentially, if we have a customer that is clearly a business setup,
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>>we
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>>>charge more.  If it is an ultra-geek setup, we'll charge it.  If it's
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>>a mom
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>>>& pop shop that just so happens to go over the threshold, we don't
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>>worry
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>>>about it.
>>>
>>>Mark Nash
>>>Network Engineer
>>>UnwiredOnline.Net
>>>350 Holly Street
>>>Junction City, OR 97448
>>>http://www.uwol.net
>>>541-998-5555
>>>541-998-5599 fax
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:45 AM
>>>Subject: [WISPA] per customer computer pricing
>>>
>>>
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>>>>I noticed that many WISPs have plans based on how many customer 
>>>>computers are hooked up to the customer's service.  How does that 
>>>>work?  Your installer counts computers initially, but then what?
>>>>
>>>>I have several power users with 5-10 computers and would like to
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>>move
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>>>>them to another plan, but need to understand how others do it.
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