Strange as it may seem Rabbtux, you'll not find me saying "Oh no, I've gone too far because this guy won't buy my gear now." I will remain consistent and provocative. For sure no other vendor has the chutzpah to do it (or maybe cares about WISPs enough to do it) and someone has to lead. Playing nice on this subject gets the industry no where and there is nothing inconsistent or hypocritical about my statements.
This is not about arrogance except to the extent that many of you really don't know how serious this is getting and what's at risk. You are necessarily tending to your businesses, and that's largely as it should be. I am more plugged in than the vast majority of you (that's not a boast, just simple statement of fact) and that gives me some responsibility or I can just ignore it and let the chips fall where they are headed. But, I do have the ability to help be a catalyst; I've done it many times in ways that can be documented. You can call that arrogance, but it's also the truth and credibility and influence is wasted if not used to the greater benefit. It about the future of the industry and that's worth more than a few ruffled feathers and what some of you think must be the loss of a few radios to Alvarion. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about being"stickerconscious" or not?? I try to keep a low profile around here, you listen twice and speak once. Wispa membership has been a good experience for me. However, Patrick has once again, been the HIGH & MiGHTY, and jumped all over my one phrase. I did not mean to imply anything illegal about my in tensions, other than I might re-use/re-deploy existing equipment. What I do know now, is that Alvaron is off my shopping list for a long time now, due to their over zealous employee. I also know that more of my posts will go to the members-only list to avoid this nonsense. On 2/18/07, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hold your Horses there Sir Patrick! There was one comment that used that in > their post - I don't think that "we" as an industry have evolved to that > level of degradation in dealing with the laws of the land & air. There will > always be renegades in every avenue of life, but "we" are not in that > classification :-) and given a little time we will be someone to be reckoned > with as the industry leader in wireless across this country. > > I must admit that I have learned a few things in the past week - or had > some things clarified that were quite an awakening for me and a few others. > I (for one) will not deploy even one more piece of hardware that is not FCC > certified. I have in the last year deployed many unlicensed access points & > back haul radios though. I made a terrible mistake in doing that, but I was > under a false impression of what was "legal." The path we will follow from > this point on is what is really going to count. > > I do happen to know of two manufacturers who have gear at FCC certification > labs today undergoing their certifications for some specific pieces of their > gear. This is something that should have taken place a couple years ago, but > now is better than never. I realize that is not going to affect the gear I > have in the air today from these guys as it can not be certified - ever - > even if they happen to get the exact gear certified that I have on towers > today. > > I think this last visit WISPA members (Thanks men) made to the FCC clarified > several things that needed clarification: > > 1. FILLOUT THOSE FORMS! > The FCC is not out to get us. They need the data that only we can supply > them - like who we are, where we are (zip code), how many subs...Etc > > This is their way of helping us. With out this data they can only guess how > many "we" are, how many we serve and the actual coverage area total. Guys - > y'all please fill out the form 477 - - it's a good thing for us all. > > 2. WE ARE NOT LEGAL EVEN IF WE ARE NOT OVER POWERED OR OUT OF BAND. > I am not going into any details here because that is stated just as > simple as it can get. > > Sincerely, > Mac Dearman > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:33 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about being > "stickerconscious" or not?? > > "Sticker conscious?" So this is what we've become as an industry? > Following the very clear laws, which were once again just reiterated to > us after another in a long chain of WISP visits, or not has now been > reduced to simply being "sticker conscious" or "not sticker conscious"? > Why not go further and call yourself "Illegal and proud" or just "I > don't give a ____"? Let's not have any more "gee, I can't afford to be > legal!" That's not an argument that is credible today, with the range > from legal cheap to premium CPE running from about $170 to sub-$300 -- > that's cheap. > > My God, 5.4 is going to be a massive mess. OET will have to install a > special phone line just to handle the incoming DoD complaint calls. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Sam Tetherow > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:37 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] cost effective reliable 5.8G cpe suggestions? > > RB112+CM9+Rootenna if you are not sticker conscious. > If you are sticker conscious I use the Tranzeo TR5a-24/20 with MT/CM9 > setups and they work great. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > rabbtux rabbtux wrote: > > Not to stir the "fcc sticker" debate, but what gear is out there today > > that is compatable with a MT/SR5 access point? 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