Mark:

But, the FACT of the matter is by slapping together that collection of pieces to make a radio that you will deploy for commercial, revenue service as a telecommunications service provider is ILLEGAL.

You make a compelling case that the "pieces parts" systems you're describing are far more innovative than what's currently on the market from the larger vendors... but ultimately irrelevant.

That you don't THINK putting together "pieces parts" radios for use in the US without going through the formality of FCC certification as a system SHOULD be illegal is irrelevant.


Thanks,

Steve



On Feb 18, 2007, at Feb 18  09:07 PM, wispa wrote:

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:52:04 -0800, Patrick Leary wrote
George, ones person's "innovation" is something that might another
person nothing but migraines. If you think you getting cutting edge
innovation and state of the art technology from the uncertified
manufacturers I don't know what to tell you except your technology
exposure may be a bit narrow.

But Patrick, it's NOT "uncertified manufacturers" as if we're talking about
some big greedy corporation.

Unless you refer to me. Or the guy down the street. Or even the woman over in the next town. Or THOUSANDS of people all over the world who find that what they want to do is either not supported by something off the shelf, or never even conceived by some engineer, or didn't make it past the marketing
and budgeting departments.

Download an open and free bit of Linux.  Buy a surplus CPU board.  Buy
whatever radio module you want or need. Put it in a box and VIOLA, you already have more features most WISP Network operators wnat, than Alvarion
can figure out how to put in a box.

Does it have "cutting edge" RF qualities? Nope. Does it have Cisco quality routing? Nope. Does it have -100 to +200 degree temperature range? Nope.

But, none of those are required. I don't have to the BEST rf front end and features to be successful. I just have to have to have the ones I find necessary, and the ability to get those things changed I need changed. And these people are endlessly exploring and refining mesh networks, customer
controls, routing, etc, etc... and THEY NEVER STOP.

So, if I want the lowest priced VL stuff to route and do NAT at the
customer's end, will Alvarion build it in for me? No? Gee, that's already
in the FREE stuff.  Huh.

Next time you whine that there's "uncertified manufacturers", you're talking about the workshops, desks, garages, offices, or even spare bedrooms of
THOUSANDS and thousands of people spread all around the country.

And we shoulid NOT be stifled by a rigid and corporate-centric regulatory
straightjacket.


Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
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c: 760.580.0080
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