Peter R. wrote:
I haven't joined yet either. Three reasons:
(1) I would have to join as a vendor, since I am a consultant - and I
can't as yet see the ROI.
I can see that. If people here do not pay you enough to pay your dues
then why would you join? i guess there could be an argument though that
you may get more sales if the option is made available for you to openly
market what you sell to WISPs. Now you have to embed your offerings
within posts to try to make sure you do not spam the group. We do also
offer a $100 per year Associate level membership. I am sure that is
justifiable to anyone who has an interest in seeing this industry prosper.
(2) I see the similarities here to another group that I belonged to
... and I don't want to go down that path again.
I do not know the details and don't need to know. That is your own issue.
(3) I have a real problem with joining a group where participants pick
and choose what laws and regulations they will and will not follow -
and try to rally people to oppose such laws.
Opposing laws and promoting breaking those laws are two different
things. WISPA will officially support that we should always follow the
law. We will also tell people when we think that laws need opposition,
reform, challenges, changes. In the future I want to see us actually
play a role in removing or easing regulatory and law issues.
We are trying to make CALEA compliance easier for WISPs. That does not
mean we agree with everything involved in how this law is being mandated
for WISPs. WISPA could and should work toward vocally supporting changes
in laws when we feel they work to the detriment of our mission.
Now you can argue all day about whether I am right or wrong in this
viewpoint, but that is MY perspective and you cannot change that no
matter how much arguing you do.
You are entitled to feel however you want. WISPA is what it is. The
members who pay the dues, run for office and meet with regulators, etc.
decide who we are and what we stand for. The rest here are an audience
who are here as guests supported by the paid members of WISPA. WISPA is
here to help and our members have made the resources here possible and
they deserve some level of respect for this at a minimum. Anyone who
uses these resources can and should see enough value to buy into some
level of membership. That is my belief and nobody will change that. :-)
Let's use a real world analogy. Let's say this was a NASCAR list. And
I got a speeding ticket on I-4 going 88 in a 70 when there were maybe
5 cars on that stretch of straight, flat plain, 3-lane highway. And I
moan about the ticket and how unfair it was. "It was entrapment.
The cop was in a unmarked car hidden behind a concrete barrier. So
what if I was speeding! There was no one around. Blah blah blah."
It's a banal argument and a waste of bytes - and an admission of guilt.
This is a public list made up of more than paid members. It is an open
public forum for free thinking and censoring is no part of the plan here.
Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc.
Blair Davis wrote:
On another subject....
Two months ago, we were ready to join WISPA. At the time, I felt that
WISPA had proven its longevity and was becoming a mature voice for
the WISP's. But, after the form 477 issue, FCC sticker issue, and
now the CALEA issue, I'm pretty sure that I disagree with the
majority of the members on what stance should be taken on these issues.
That being the case, why should I still join?
West Michigan Wireless ISP
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