----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Peering


Why wouldn't you just put up your own AP's and service the same area rather than give that customer away to the competition?

Spectrum congestion.

Cashflow

Speed.

Expanded coverage, very quickly, for no money.


I would spend $5k and put up my own tower before I turn a "potential" customer away to the competition. I've done it many times over the years and it has always paid off. Once one person is connected, they tell their neighbors about it. Pretty soon an AP that was put up for a single customer has 10 or 20 customers on it.

Um, the competitors ALREADY have networks in place!!!!!


Doesn't seem to make business sense to me. Plus when they need tech support, how do you troubleshoot the competitors AP's? How do you do RF link tests and packet loss tests at 10:00PM when the customer is on the phone?

I call the competitor on his cell phone.  Just like he does with me.

Your attidude, while pretty typical, is very short sighted. The more we work together to keep the airways clean and maximize the investments, the better all of our networks run and the faster we can grow.

It's that silly ol' "Together we stand" thing.

I was watching a group of kids play Red Rover the other day. I had to wonder how that game would turn out if the kids all tried to stand there and hold their OWN ground instead of working as a team.


Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Peering


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Two of my competitors just sat down for lunch and worked out a network sharing agreement. It's a handshake deal at this point though.

Basically we carved up a hilltop laying out coverage zones for each of us, and we set a price for using each other's ap's.

Marlon

Hey I think thats a good thing you've done there Marlon, getting along and even doing business with your competitors.

Yeah. It's something that the three of us have already been doing for a couple of years. We sell on each other's ap's at the same price. The only catch is that each of us has to live under the bw, and bit cap rules of the other guys network vs. our own. But that seems perfectly fair to me.

We also handle all tech support for the cusotmer. The customer should NEVER contact the other isp. We have however, shown up together at problematic customers and worked jointly to fix any issues.


But where do you think the line would be drawn in respect to anti competitive practices?

I'm not sure.  We've not had that come up yet.

Did you have a specific situation in mind?


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