----- Original Message ----- From: Dawn DiPietro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 13 May 2007 04:07:19 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services
> All, > > The way the ILEC's look at it, they put the infrastructure in place and > to have CLEC's profit from it would not be in their best interest since > the CLEC would be using these same lines the ILECs could potentially get > retail for. Whether the ILEC would actually provide these services is an > argument for another day. As I understand it, one of the advantages of > getting CLEC status was to get better pricing, this is no longer the case. > > I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. :-) > > Regards, > Dawn DiPietro You are correct, I have worked for an IXC, ILEC and CLEC in past lives. Currently there is a move to make CLEC's pay up for the "no facilities" side, as they capitalized on the ILEC infrastructure since the ACT passed. Now they are being told to build/buy their own facilities or pay less discounted rates to the incumbent. Sate Regulatory Commissions have differing rules for CLEC's still, but it's still a way to make money as Frame Relay never died, but MPLS is picking up speed. Business services are still the bread and butter of Verizon and AT&T, don't forget it. -Dee > > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > The FCC has been influenced by changes in staff, Senate oversight, and the > consolidation the Bell operating entities. Becoming a CLEC now is more > streamlined than in the beginning, but depending on your PUC and competitive > envirement, may still be expensive. As always, if you going to wage war, get > counsel. > > > > -Dee > > > > Alaska Wireless Systems > > 1(907)240-2183 Cell > > 1(907)349-2226 Fax > > 1(907)349-4308 Office > > www.akwireless.net > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mac Dearman > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:33:45 -0800 > > Subject: > > RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services > > > > > > > >> George, > >> > >> It sounds as if they are a start up CLEC and haven't had the time to > >> exactly figure out what is available to them and the costs associated > with > >> the product offerings. I use to be in that same boat, but we finally > figured > >> out that Bell South has nothing available in N. Louisiana other than a > fiber > >> connection (the only one in this parish short of theirs) we paid for and > >> T1's. I am not kidding - - T1's are available, but you can't even get a > PRI > >> short of Monroe. (30 miles west of here)It's a crying shame any portion > of > >> this nation can be so technologically retarded compared to the rest of > the > >> world. > >> > >> I have been playing with the idea of becoming a CLEEC myself. I know > Bell > >> South has quizzed me on this with a lot of intensity. Makes me wonder > what > >> the deal is! > >> > >> > >> Mac > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of George Rogato > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:37 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services > >>> > >>> I'm sure Peter can help, but I'm curious why the clec doesn't know these > >>> things, aren't they a facilities based clec with interconection > >>> agreement with the ilec? > >>> > >>> George > >>> > >>> Rick Harnish wrote: > >>> > >>>> Peter is no longer suspended and I agree with Mac! > >>>> > >>>> Rick Harnish > >>>> President > >>>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > >>>> 260-827-2482 > >>>> Founding Member of WISPA > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>>> Behalf Of Mac Dearman > >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:45 PM > >>>> To: 'WISPA General List' > >>>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services > >>>> > >>>> Doug, > >>>> > >>>> I can give you a name of a man who can take you by the hand and lead > >>>> > >>> you > >>> > >>>> through the wildness of the Telco maze as well as explain it to where > >>>> > >>> you > >>> > >>>> can understand it all. I can also tell you he is ABSOLUTELY worth more > >>>> > >>> than > >>> > >>>> he charges for consulting! His name is Peter Radizeski and he is member > >>>> > >>> on > >>> > >>>> the free WISPA list - - currently suspended for - - er...well...., less > >>>> > >>> than > >>> > >>>> perfect list etiquette (hehehehehe) > >>>> > >>>> Email addy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> http://www.rad-info.net/ > >>>> > >>>> GL, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mac Dearman > >>>> Maximum Access, LLC. > >>>> Rayville, La. > >>>> www.inetsouth.com > >>>> www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief) > >>>> www.mac-tel.us (VoIP sales) > >>>> 318.728.8600 > >>>> 318.728.9600 > >>>> 318.303.4182 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > >>>>> Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 AM > >>>>> To: WISPA General List > >>>>> Subject: [WISPA] CLEC Services > >>>>> > >>>>> We have a CLEC who's co-located their offices with ours, and although > >>>>> they're residential copper analog only, they told us they can order > >>>>> anything > >>>>> from the ILEC for us for cost and a small markup. But it's Bellsouth > >>>>> territory, and he's given me the tech line's phone number and a big > >>>>> > >>> book > >>> > >>>>> of > >>>>> services, but I don't even know where to start. I'm looking for > prices > >>>>> > >>> on > >>> > >>>>> T1's, and also DSL I can sell private label with my own TOS. I don't > >>>>> > >>> want > >>> > >>>>> to have any facilities to install at the CO, just use the CO's > >>>>> > >>> equipment > >>> > >>>>> under the CLEC's name but I don't even know what services to request. > >>>>> > >>>>> Any ideas where to start? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>>> > >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>>> > >>> -- > >>> George Rogato > >>> > >>> Welcome to WISPA > >>> > >>> www.wispa.org > >>> > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> -- > >>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >> -- > >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
