Yep.  There is several products that they should be talking about next
week!  Be sure to check out my site, as i will post some information about
it, if possabe, etc.   http://www.mikrotikconsulting.com.  One of them
includes a gigabit board that should have some power behind it!  Should be
very intresting to see.




On 5/22/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Faster, more powerful MT boards are on the way.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 Speeds


>I have found that MT test tools are accurate with enough CPU power.
> Thats part of the reason higher CPU's are needed.
> How does one troubleshoot and certify their links remotely on an ongoing
> basis?
>
> In the field, having a 1GB Router on each side usually isn't an option,
> and with Firewall trends, often only 1 router accessable on the ISP's
end,
> provided they run a routed network at the cell, with a Linux box.  It is
> imparative to have a radio device with enough horsepower to perform a
> linktest of itself.
>
> So sure it may be fine to have a 175mhz processor for subs that don;t
need
> to be tested at speeds higher than a few mbps. But for APs, the CPU
cycles
> are needed, to run a certifiable network.  A 266Mhz board does not have
> enough CPU to keep up with full speed of a wireless card when test
devices
> are outside each side of the router, and even less inability to self
> generate the tests from within MT.
>
> I recognize that my response/argument is not on topic with your thread,
> discussing Wired Ethernet MT Routers.  I just like to throw in my pitch
> for higher CPU devices, whenever I have a window to :-)
> To keep the manufacturer's working on it, and aware that we need it.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 Speeds
>
>
>>I actually think it is an issue with their BW tester (the windows
version)
>> that is.  cause that is where I am seeing this.  I am getting wire
speed
>> 90+
>> mbps on FTP Transfers.  Mikrotik uses two 1gig MT routers around the
532
>> to
>> do their testing.  They are setting around 100mbits using that
>> configuration
>> and their built in bandwidth tester, not their windows version though.
>>
>> I have two 3.06 gig Dual Core HPs that I have setup with a 532 266mhz
for
>> testing right now, next is to load up a "USB" Flash card with a temp
>> licence
>> to see what they do.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would imagine as with all technology, they were able to run it
faster
>>> with
>>> less heat.
>>>
>>> MT has a slew of new products coming (I believe 300, 600, 800, and
1000
>>> series though I'm not 100% sure)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
>>> <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 Speeds
>>>
>>>
>>> >I do not have an opinion or data on the Ethernet to Ethernet
>>> configuration
>>> >you mention.
>>> > But it is important that we define "both ways",  expecially when
>>> > dealing
>>> > with Wireless cards.
>>> >
>>> > The max data we've been able to get out of a Mikrotik 532 AP, with
>>> > 20Mhz
>>> > channel 5.8G, connection tracking off, no type of compression
>>> considered,
>>> > is about 20mbps thoughput.  That means 20mbps in the Ethernet and
>>> > 20mbps
>>> > out the wireless card or Vice versa.  It Does NOT mean 20mbps Full
>>> Duplex
>>> > over the wireless.
>>> > The big advantage that StarOS had over Mikrotik was the ability to
run
>>> on
>>> > a 533Mhz board allowing Wireless speeds as high as 35-40mbps without
>>> > compression on a single 20mhz channel.  Mikrotik 266Mhz boards in my
>>> > opinion are wasteful to Wifi, if using 20Mhz channels, because the
>>> bottle
>>> > neck is the CPU not the Wifi Card.
>>> >
>>> > With that said, I saw the press release on the Mikrotik 400Mhz 532
>>> board,
>>> > however, I have yet to see one sold any where.
>>> > Are these available yet? Are they just 532 boards being overclocked?
>>> > Are
>>> > they stable?
>>> >
>>> > Tom DeReggi
>>> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 5:38 PM
>>> > Subject: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 Speeds
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>I wanted to post a message to make sure everyone understands a post
>>> >>that
>>> I
>>> >> made a while back on the speed of the 532s.
>>> >>
>>> >> First, I want to make sure that I say, that I CURRENTLY use
>>> >> Routerboard
>>> >> 532s
>>> >> on ALL my towers.  I use it as all of the APs on my wireless
network,
>>> and
>>> >> I
>>> >> use MT for 99% of my consulting customers router needs.  I think
that
>>> >> Mikrotik is a great product, heck, I even certified in the product,
>>> >> use
>>> >> it
>>> >> every day for WISP and network operations!
>>> >>
>>> >> With that said, I had stated that the thoughput of a 532 is around
>>> 20-25
>>> >> meg.  I want to clarify that it is MY EXPERIENCE that a 532 running
>>> >> as
>>> a
>>> >> CORE router, such as doing NAT, connection tracking, having simple
>>> >> queues,
>>> >> SFQ queueing, OSPF, ya name, it, the speed I have seen the
processor
>>> >> at
>>> >> that
>>> >> point at 100% would be around 20meg BOTH WAYS, this does not
account
>>> for
>>> >> wireless cards, just ETHERNET to ETHERNET!   So, on the 266mhz
>>> >> processors,
>>> >> about 20 meg both ways, and around 25 meg for the new 400mhz
boards.
>>> >> It
>>> >> has NOTHING to do with wireless connectivity, just pure processing
>>> power
>>> >> doing tones of tasks.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now with that said, with two workstaitons 3 foot of ethernet
between
>>> >> them,
>>> >> and a 532 Rev5 with the 400mhz processor, one way I can do a FTP
>>> Transfer
>>> >> at
>>> >> 92 meg, and I see 2-3 meg going the other way.    This is ONE
>>> connection,
>>> >> not a bunch, this is STRIGHT routing, no OSPF, no NAT, with
>>> >> connection
>>> >> tracking turned on.  I also use TCP packets vs UDP, this 92meg/2meg
>>> would
>>> >> be
>>> >> very close to the limit of two 10/100 nics.
>>> >>
>>> >> I just wanted to clarify this, as many of my customers have asked
me
>>> what
>>> >> is
>>> >> a good limit to start looking at puttting in something a bit bigger
>>> >> as
>>> >> they
>>> >> have grown.  My opinion, depends on what you are doing with the MT,
>>> >> but
>>> a
>>> >> total thoughput of around 50meg is a good starting point, depending
>>> >> on
>>> >> how
>>> >> many features you are using on the MT, i.e. NAT, OSFP, etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now, looking at that, if you are moving more than 20 meg both ways
on
>>> >> your
>>> >> network, doing it using a $200 router sounds awsome to me!   Not to
>>> >> menton
>>> >> all of the other features you have!  I don't doubt, that if you put
>>> >> up
>>> a
>>> >> wireless link and test with it, you can see much higher 50+ meg
>>> >> thoughput,
>>> >> depending on what the router is doing.  In my case, we are looking
at
>>> >> customers that use their 532 as a "do everything" router.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you have any thoughts, comments or questions, or if you have
some
>>> real
>>> >> world experience, with NOTHING on, or only a few things on, be sure
>>> >> to
>>> >> post,
>>> >> i'm sure that many users will enjoy reading your findings.
>>> >>
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