But the base product, the "computer" does not start life as an intentional radiator. So at what point does a FCC certified computer become an intentional radiator as a whole?
When you add a wireless card? That would land Dell, HP and Compaq in a load of trouble. But alas, is a FCC certified Netgear card, any different than an FCC certified Ubiquiti card when used with the certified antennas? I'm NOT talking about marketing these as products as a vendor, I'm talking about USING these computers, with wireless cards installed in them after the sale. I don't see how page 78 and on reference a computer becoming an intentional radiator? At the beginning of the day, you have a motherboard and power supply, which become a "Personal Computer". At the end of the day, you add a wireless card and antenna which makes it what then? Calling a Cisco Aironet a PC or vice versa doesn't make sense. Cisco Aironet=Intentional Radiator, PC=Unintentional Radiator. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble Sam, Since some here feel I have no credibility because I no longer run a WISP I will let you decide from this information provided. Starting on page 78 of the following link should explain why the wireless devices in question cannot be certified as computers. http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules/part15/part15-2-16-06.pdf Regards, Dawn DiPietro Sam Tetherow wrote: > I think the question that really hasn't been answered is if a RB can > be certified class B and then use a certified radio/antenna combo as > is allowed with a PC/laptop. > And you are right that then FCC makes the rules. What is not clear is > that Dawn's (and others) position that the component rules can not > apply to an RB or other SBC. The only people that can clarify this is > the FCC. > > As for FCC certification in general, I think there are two major > factors that come into play with uncertified gear. There are several > that deployed the equipment under the false impression that it was > legal because they complied with the EIRP rules (and many still > persist in this belief). > The other is the simple fact that no one has been fined, to my > knowledge, for using uncertified gear. There have been instances of > people that have been fined for using over EIRP and unauthorized use > of licensed bands. > > If the FCC has not fined for the behavior yet and has made unofficial > statements to the effect that they are more worried about EIRP and > 477, it comes as no surprise that people will not follow the law. As > you pointed out most people regularly break the speed limit, which is > a law with an associated fine but they continue to do so because the > fine is not large enough or incurred often enough to make it an > effective deterrent. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > Matt Liotta wrote: >> This has become a ridiculous thread. Dawn's customer experience is >> irrelevant in this case. Plenty of operators who have lots of >> customers (including me) understand and agree with the position >> presented. Don't kill the messenger! The FCC makes the rules; not >> Dawn or me or any of the other folks who have made accurate >> statements regarding certification. Use of certified equipment is >> required by law. Many people break laws for a variety of reasons, but >> that doesn't change the law. For example, everyday I drive over the >> speed limit and occasionally I am fined for doing so. >> >> -Matt >> > -- WISPA Wireless List: email@example.com Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/836 - Release Date: 6/6/2007 1:10 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: firstname.lastname@example.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/