It sounds like Google will only bid if they get their way, which is the
complete opposite of what the telcos want to do. I don't see them bidding
against each other.
I agree that 20 MHz doesn't get you much.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion
Although, its smart to ask those questions, and keep a midful eye open for
posibilities and threats...
"Can you
compete with FREE service, using 700mhz NLOS technology (meaning
self-install, take the modem with you to work type service)?"
Yes. Becaues the 700Mhz spectrum being auctioned is less than 20Mhz worth
of spectrum.
Could you image trying to operate your WISP, will all omnis? or only Two
sectors? Or really small channel sectors?
700Mhz providers aren't going to be able to provide truely "HI SPEED"
services. They are going to be able to deploy low speed mobile services
for rural areas.
Are WISPs doing that now? Not really. I look at that as competition to
Cell Phone providers' edge and evdo.
I will add that Google being added to the bidder's list, will make it
harder for WISPs to win auctions.
Googles interest in rural markets will get LECs more seriously also
looking at thsoe markets, likely raising the low bid.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion
And thus you just hit the nail on the head... and it brings us back full
circle to the original subject of this thread...
Google is going to bid on 700mhz spectrum... billions of dollars... then,
once they own it, they are going to start some type of wireless internet
service using that spectrum... and then, they WILL be competing directly
with all the ISP's. And, they will probably give the service away FREE,
just like they do now with their WiFi service. Can you compete with FREE
service, using 700mhz NLOS technology (meaning self-install, take the
modem with you to work type service)?
So, now who's your friend? They have a huge recurring income from the
search engine, so they don't have to make a dime on other services...
gmail, Google Earth, etc. are all examples. They will just add 700mhz
wireless to the list of "free" things they provide.
Travis
Microserv
Michael Erskine wrote:
Travis Johnson wrote:
I'm not sure what the hell your problem is, but you really need to get
a grip. I started in the internet space in 1994... back before Google
or even Altavista... back when there were no real search engines to
speak of... and now today, Google's search is used by 44% of ALL
internet searches... so, whether you believe it or not, they CAN
control what searches are displayed for 44% of the internet.... that's
only about 600 million people.
1) I took you to be a young man from the start. I wrote machine
language on a Commodore 64 in 1983 while I was studying Computer Science
but I sat down to my first main frame keyboard in 1972.
2) 44% is not a majority, last time I looked.
3) They are not the evil empire, honest... :P They are just another
company making a living.
Postini does SPAM blocking and filtering for a very large percentage of
the internet today... we have been using them for almost 4 years. Large
corporations (Apple, Sun, and others) also use them. So, once again,
with Google buying Postini, they can control a _very_ large percentage
of what emails get thru and don't get thru.
Well you see, I've never felt the need to have someone else manage my
mail servers... That means that I can't relate to your problem. Mind
you I don't believe your problem is anything but paranoia, but I could
be wrong. Google could be the evil empire and they might want to
prevent me from getting my E-Mail... Maybe ... NAWWWWWH! Prolly not!
:)
Sounds like you are prepared to have Google control the internet for
you rather than some ILEC that can really never have control... but
some of us are not. Some of us helped get the internet where it is
today because it was open and not controlled. You really need to open
your eyes and take a look around... Google is becoming the Microsoft of
internet space.
Gee, Google never did lobby the FCC to get permission to "wholesale" DSL
to us for $24.95 per month, while they "retailed" the same lines to our
customers at "$15.95" per month. Verizon did. Friend, you need to
figure out who your allies are and who wants to crush you... Google has
no interest in crushing Travis Johnson... The ILEC's do have an
interest in crushing your business because you and they are in the same
business space now.
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