Ralph,

I have placed you on moderation.  I will approve or disapprove all of your
posts to this public list.  I expect your cooperation in this matter.  By
the way, we did make a change to Article 2 of the Code of Ethics this
morning in our board meeting in response to your pleas.  I'm sure it isn't
enough to satisfy you but it is the best we can do at this time.  WISPA
represents all WISPs and will seek to guide them into compliance through
various means.  This will be continued discussion with the FCC on rule
modification, pressuring vendors to certify all systems and hardware and
educating the members on the importance of certification.  This will not be
a quick process and may take years to accomplish.  I hope you realize that
your comments are driving more people away from WISPA than they are
educating.  Please keep your comments and discussions civil.  While you may
be completely legal with your compliance, your tact and lack of politeness
on the list is disgraceful, thus in my opinion, you are no better than any
non-compliant WISP in our fold.  If you want to be perceived as a
professional then you need to start acting professional.

I have not moderated your posts on the member's only list as it is a private
list.  However, I expect the same degree of proper decorum on that list as
well.

Respectfully,
Rick Harnish
List Moderator

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Yes, the truth does hurt...
Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product
line.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.


Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful..

Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back
to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment.

Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_
and _relevant_ to my work.

ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Amen!
But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were
written for all the OTHER people.

Ralph


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ty Carter <Lightwave Communications>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.


Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are
homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front...

Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or
broadcasting of a cell providers frequency.

And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not.

1.  You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of
2.  You don't own the freq.
3.  You don't have the subscriber

Shall I go on...

Ty Carter

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Cc: Jack Daniel
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Be prepared...

In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical
AND legal side of this.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.


> Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before?
I 
> have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but
have 
> no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna
and 
> they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to
be 
> able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before
and 
> what kind of results they have had? TIA.
>
> Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check
> out www.info-ed.com for information.
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