".....I would love to see their gear recalled and outlawed..." Mac,
That will happen when the 'cow jumps the moon'. Don't know if you all know the story of how Moto Canopy was developed ? It was developed for the military to begin with .......you take it from there....every thing that you all dislike about the Moto Canopy system were specifically designed as 'features' . -:) Faisal Imtiaz -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:50 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations I disagree totally :) with all respect! I also think that Canopy ought to be illegal in the USA. They built something that is totally spectrally unfriendly - on purpose! The commercial that they use to air was "the last man standing." I didn't say that Canopy didn't build some pretty good gear - I said I hate their guts and wouldn't hang it if it were given to me for free due to the noise they create. I would love to see their gear recalled and outlawed. I can produce that commercial/ad in court and if you think you would stand a chance in civil court against an ad like that - - you are in for a surprise - - -unlicensed spectrum or not! We (all the WISP's) have a pact in N. Louisiana - - no one buys Canopy! Mac > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of David Peterson > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:32 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference > Situations > > I would have to disagree with most of this thread. You have two > things going against you in this. > > 1. A free market economy. > 2. License Free spectrum. > > You can no more sue for someone putting up wireless in your "area" > than you can if you owned a restaurant and McDonalds moved in next door. > This is a critical component of American society, so I doubt that any > judge would even allow the suit to ever get in front of a jury. If > you can prove they are doing something illegal, like shooting your > antennas with a .22 you might have a chance. > > License free spectrum means that you are going to get interference. > Period. If interference were actionable, then Canopy would be out of > business. Let's face it guys, Canopy interferes with most of all > other equipment in its spectrum. By now, someone would have sued > Canopy both on their equipment and on their marketing. (Who has seen > the Wireless Thug pic at the shows. I know I have.) > > Your best bet is to prove that they are using unauthorized gear such > as amps, etc. and cajole the FCC into investigating. > > David Peterson > WirelesGuys Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Mac Dearman > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:00 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference > Situations > > Jack, > > I don't think it would have to be anything illegal about the > interference. If someone moves into an area established by you - > where you have an ongoing business and (for instance) someone hangs > some Canopy and creates the inability to recover from the noise - - > that is a law suit in the making. I am sure you would have to do all > you could do and present the evidence of such, but the one who knocked > you oout of business would be responsible for your lost income. > > My partner (20% owner) is a Corporate attorney and we have had this > discussion on several occasions. I will ask him what his take on this > is and what grounds he bases this line of thought. > > Mac > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of George Rogato > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:09 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference > > Situations > > > > Onlist for my reply. > > It's also a good onlist discusion. > > > > I have always believed that there is some way to combat someone who > > intentionally causes interference with an existing network to cause > > harm to the business or operation and or for financial gain. > > > > I'm not a lawyer, so I can't even give any advice that would be > worthy > > of taking to court. > > > > But, to me, it's just unbelievable that criminal case can't be > brought > > against the offending party. The same way the Ricco statutes were > first > > used against the mob and in other racketeering cases. > > > > > > Statutory remedies for intentional acts. Many statutes provide > remedies > > for intentional harms. Civil rights statutes provide remedies for > > intentional discrimination. Consumer fraud statutes provide remedies > > for unlawful trade practices. The federal RICCO statute provides > > remedies for victims of conspiratorial intentional conduct. > > > > http://www.rnoon.com/law_for_laymen/litigation/intent.html > > > > > > Jack Unger wrote: > > > It's hard for me to accept that there are a few inconsiderate > bullies > > > out there who would intentionally and maliciously jam other WISPs > in > > > order to take over the customer base. I have recently seen > > > probable evidence of just such behavior. 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