I just ordered service from them so I can test... we'll see how their "2 meg" speed holds up.

The other funny thing about the "park scene" is that the modem has to be plugged into something to get regular 120VAC power... they kind of forgot to mention that... LOL. "Get internet anywhere you want... you just have to pack this generator with you."

Travis
Microserv

Brad Belton wrote:
Kinda funny.the video says it delivered "perfect service" in the park while
only pulling up about a third of the www.localnews8.com website over several
seconds.  Now compare that video to pulling up www.localnews8.com yourself.
It leaves quite a bit to be desired when comparing "broadband" services.
My Sprint Data card pulls up the website faster and works ANYWHERE I have
Sprint service in the USA.  Why would I choose a mobile broadband service
that only works in a couple cities?

Just another hyped story relating to a service that will over commit and
underperform resulting in yet another black-eye for the wireless data
industry.  This reminds me of the Ricochet service I subscribed to years ago
before they went belly up.  Worked fair to ok in some areas, but was quickly
overshadowed by the cellular industry guys who really know how to make
mobile Internet work.

Have to admit though it was a great plug for Alvarion!

Best,

Brad

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: video of news segment in Idaho about a new
localWiMAX service

Patrick,

DBC purchased an existing company (Teton Wireless) that was using their
2.5ghz license for Television and internet service. They started 10 years
ago with just TV and added internet about 3-4 years ago. So, technically
they are not a "start-up" as they purchased an existing business and
license.

They also didn't raise money, but rather sold another business (cellular I
believe) and used that money to buy this business. They are in the game for
the short-haul, trying to get as many customers as possible with the full
intent to sell it off.

And I'm not sure I really need a lecture on the "I can" model... having
started a WISP in 1997 from scratch (no outside investors, no outside money)
and now with over 4,000 subs in the air, over 500 DSL customers, fiber
customers, dedicated p2p customers, etc. I think I understand how it works.
We started building our own DOS based routers with WaveLan 900mhz ISA cards
back in 1997, when there was NOTHING on the market that was cost effective
to make this business model work. The dot-bomb crash had ZERO affect on our
business and we continue to grow every year.

My point to the original email was you can't just stick an AP in the air and
think you are going to do "truckless" installs with roaming clients like the
video clip pictured. With millions of dollars, yes it can be done... but not
otherwise.

Travis
Microserv

Patrick Leary wrote:
DBC uses 2.5 GHz. They did not exist as an operator one year ago. They
are a start-up that raised money. Nothing prevents WISPs from doing this
sort of thing too Travis and I know a few WISPs who are in fact doing
this very thing.
Travis, anyone can provide tons of reasons why something can't be done,
but someone always comes along who says "I can" and they do. It is that
group of people who dare who become the next set of millionaires.
As for the model, the DBC guys are pros who have been around the block.
They deployed several thousand unlicensed CPEs a few years back in
another company. It is not like they are just winging it. And in any
event, chances are a guy like this gets bought out a few years from now
for a good-sized multiple of the original investment.
Also, WISPs need to understand that the financial world considers
licensed band leases as assets, not expenses. Why do you think a company
like Clearwire that is losing money hand over fist has a $3.5B
valuation? It is because of the value of their licensed holdings
primarily.
Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World
Chicago, September 25-27
Booth #409
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: video of news segment in Idaho about a new
localWiMAX service
Everyone should realize this is a licensed frequency (2.3ghz?) and that the base stations are very expensive. So, if you have a few million dollars (I think they actually paid $7 million for the license in our area about 10 years ago, with a population of 150,000 people) and want to spend a few more million for AP's and CPE's, you should be able to breakeven in about 1,000 years. ;) Travis
Microserv
Patrick Leary wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6fag7cy2Nr4
Our customer, Digital Bridge Communications (DBC), sent this video to
me
today after it recently appeared on the local news. Nice piece,
especially since it was unsolicited. It is from an ABC news affiliate
in
Idaho. DBC calls the service BridgeMAXX.
Patrick
Alvarion
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