Grin

It's not a perfect solution.

What we'll be looking at next is a device that will allow us to track who the high users are in real time. Once they've passed a certain point, say 512k non stop for an hour, we'll start to slow them down more and more till they are a dialup speeds. Then, once they shut things down for a couple of hours it'll ratchet back up.

The reality of the situation is that there isn't enough capacity out there for everyone to watch real time broadcast quality tv, download a new movie twice a night, talk on the phone etc. etc. etc. all at once. We have to MANAGE what happens and TEACH people to use more efficient technologies. PPV or broadcasting is a GREAT way to watch video content or listen to the radio. The internet wasn't designed for this and isn't up to speed for it.

And with such limited spectrum and a HUGE installed base of relatively slow and inefficient radios out there already, it's an issue. I think that even the customers would agree that some limitations on service would be MUCH better than going back to the old dialup days or to DSL/Cable. And those are the only choices available for a lot of the people we're talking about.

Sooner than later we're gonna see the big boys doing these things too. Right now things are still growing fast for all of us. And those guys will do ANYTHING to bring on the customer base. When that growth starts to slow down though, look out. IF they can rebuild their networks (again) fast enough to keep up with usage it may be no big deal. My guess is that they're gonna have to get really aggressive with customer control though.

I give it another 2 to 3 years, then the market will be mostly saturated. So far things for broadband here are tracking very similarly to dialup as far as growth goes. But this time there is no better mouse trap on the horizon. Sure fiber's great, but no one thinks it's good enough to string it out to everyone in the next few years. 30 years from now? 15 even? Who knows. But I think the next 5 are looking pretty dang good. Especially with some of the cool new gear that we can start overlaying with our current stuff and let people upgrade to.

laters,
marlon

P.S. Yeah, I noticed the Commiecast address. deep sigh SOMEBODY get this poor schmuck a real account! lol


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] P2P Countermeasures


How do you identify it if it is encrypted?

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] P2P Countermeasures

Call Butch,

We set ALL ptp traffic to share a single 128k connection.  >:-)

laters,
Marlon
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: [WISPA] P2P Countermeasures


To All,
The issue of P2P rears its relatively unattractivehead in my neck of the
woods from time to time. This is one of those times.
- So, what is everyone doing to'counter' the influx of traffic from P2P?
- What are the most effective "P2P countermeasures" that you have
employed, lately?
- For those fo you that respond, I will put it all in a file and make it
available to all, via Scriv.
Heck who should approve the dumpingofthat info onto WISPA - Rick Harnish -

I'll checkwith him.
Ron Wallace
Hahnron, Inc.
220 S. Jackson Dt.
Addison, MI 49220

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