For the ones that can't do it themselves, do you not have pc shops that still 
build white box solutions around you? They are more expensive, but you get it 
like Burger King, "Have it your way!"

We are also a pc shop, and I can load windows 95 on it for you if I can still 
find a place to buy it for you.

SHHH! but here is a little secret: 
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005512.html 

I have "Heard" that you can do it for any version of Vista.

HTH.


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Anthony Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Date:  Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:59:28 -0600

>Dell and HP still sell XP.  They are big enough to make Microsoft bend 
>on the Vista release issues.  We only have this month left though as far 
>as I can tell.  My bet is if SP1 doesn't resolve most of the issues with 
>Vista that Dell and the like will continue to pressure MS for a XP 
>solution.  This being mostly for business workstations. 
>
>http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130657-c,xp/article.html
>http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17733/Dell-Resumes-Windows-XP-Sales-MS-To-Sell-Software-for-Cheap/
>
>Anthony Will
>Broadband Corp.
>http://www.broadband-mn.com
>
>
>
>Jeff Broadwick wrote:
>> Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP? 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:23 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
>>
>> Games.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonathan Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:38 PM
>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT......Question
>>
>>
>>   
>>> We've standardized on XP/PRO SP2 for the office.
>>>
>>> We tried Vista and, although some fanatics show it can be a bit but
>>> definitely slower, that's not meaningful.
>>>
>>> The computers, themselves, suffer intractable problems with Vista with 
>>> less
>>> than 2G memory, but with that memory or more, it's OK.  (Why it becomes
>>> unstable under 2Gb is the subject of wild, physical arguments).
>>>
>>> We haven't had driver problems.
>>>
>>> We have had significantly more hang-ups with Vista.  Not many, but perhaps
>>> 50% more.
>>>
>>> The GUI is, perhaps, more intuitive but it splits functionality that was, 
>>> in
>>> XP, in one place into several far flung places.  It may make more sense 
>>> but
>>> drives the old folks (over 20 years old) crazy.
>>>
>>> The reallocation of facilities that were in XP-HOME and XP-PRO into
>>> fragmented pieces within an array of options of Vista upgrades is driving
>>> the support guys nuts.  Ordinary users who had a handle on XP are now
>>> calling support.
>>>
>>> The removal of OUTLOOK 2007 from Student/Teacher 2007 meant that folks 
>>> with
>>> a teacher wife and student kids can't use it for work.  That just makes
>>> people mad at Microsoft.
>>>
>>> Since we stick with Lenovo/IBM for laptops, etc., we can still order 
>>> XP/PRO
>>> (at a small cost).
>>>
>>> It doesn't appear that "VISTA" was a good business/technical decision on
>>> Microsoft's part but I'm sure it will pay off through the sales of new 
>>> PCs.
>>>
>>> It's not the end of the world...it just appears dumb...really dumb.
>>>
>>> It turns out that Macintosh computers with Microsoft Office have been more
>>> and more popular and we accept that for our system.  They have caused no
>>> problems...perhaps because the Mac-fanatics stick together and 
>>> aggressively
>>> help each other the way early PC users used to do.  There are only a tiny
>>> fraction of PC users that utilize applications that aren't available on
>>> Macintosh as the same or better.  That argument doesn't fly anymore.
>>>
>>> . . . J o n a t h a n
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:02 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Every single test out there shows Vista is SLOWER on an identical machine
>>> running XP. Why would I "upgrade" to an OS that is slower?
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Agreed.  This happens with every OS release...  It's OH SO HORRIBLE...
>>>> but then in a year or so, everyone forgets their fabricated fears.
>>>> I've been using Vista for about 4 months and have 0 issues with Vista
>>>> itself.  Sure, I've had problems with vendors who are slow to update
>>>> software\drivers, but that's not Microsoft's fault...  that's the
>>>> fault of lazy vendors *cough* DELL *cough*.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>> In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> dreaded  MS Vista
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is everyone so down on Vista?  I have been using it for a long
>>>>> time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version,
>>>>> without problems [laptops and PC's].  I think it is more a learning
>>>>> curve with so many changes from the earlier versions.  Vista is here
>>>>> to stay and you  should be learning it-not going backwards.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Walter W.  Stumpf Jr.
>>>>> Xanadu Group Inc.
>>>>> 179 Statesville Quarry Road
>>>>> Lafayette NJ  07848-3128 USA
>>>>> 973-702-3899
>>>>> fax  775-667-1995
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's
>>>>> hottest products.
>>>>> (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop0003000000
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>>>>>
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